Comments on: Boycott The Hell Ride? http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2009/03/boycott-the-hell-ride/ Cycling Journal Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:09:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Jim Connell http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2009/03/boycott-the-hell-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-3745 Jim Connell Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:36:31 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=2094#comment-3745 Sorry Sam Now the weather is changing for the better, the dills in the Hell Ride are back. Same old antics, take over both lanes and pass each other in the oncoming traffic lane. Time for the police to have a blitz and get rid of the Hell Ride forever Sorry Sam

Now the weather is changing for the better, the dills in the Hell Ride are back.
Same old antics, take over both lanes and pass each other in the oncoming traffic lane.

Time for the police to have a blitz and get rid of the Hell Ride forever

]]> By: Jim Connell http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2009/03/boycott-the-hell-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-18073 Jim Connell Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:36:00 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=2094#comment-18073 Sorry Sam Now the weather is changing for the better, the dills in the Hell Ride are back. Same old antics, take over both lanes and pass each other in the oncoming traffic lane. Time for the police to have a blitz and get rid of the Hell Ride forever Sorry Sam

Now the weather is changing for the better, the dills in the Hell Ride are back.
Same old antics, take over both lanes and pass each other in the oncoming traffic lane.

Time for the police to have a blitz and get rid of the Hell Ride forever

]]> By: Sam http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2009/03/boycott-the-hell-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-2169 Sam Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:43:07 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=2094#comment-2169 I did the Hell Ride this morning. And I do Tuesday /Thursday North Road almost every week. I consider myslef a rider who follows the law and can use common sense to prevail over bunch mentality. For what it's worth, the behavior I observed in the bunch was fine, and absolutely no different to the NRR. The reason I bring this up, is to to point out that perhaps the attitudes of those cyclists who have behaved poorly in the past have changed or are changing. I think both motorists and cyclists alike need to stop using the hell ride as a scape goat, because I have have seen as bad (and far worse riding) in various different bunches and locations in Melbourne. I know this topic was posted sometme ago, but I wanted it to be heard, so we can all stop making miss informed comments from a distance. I'm not saying the Hell Ride is a stand up example of cycling behavior now, but rather an observation you may all be pleased to hear that as stated above perhaps those "idiots" are now curbing their inclinations to do wrong (albeit less often). I did the Hell Ride this morning. And I do Tuesday /Thursday North Road almost every week. I consider myslef a rider who follows the law and can use common sense to prevail over bunch mentality.

For what it’s worth, the behavior I observed in the bunch was fine, and absolutely no different to the NRR.

The reason I bring this up, is to to point out that perhaps the attitudes of those cyclists who have behaved poorly in the past have changed or are changing.

I think both motorists and cyclists alike need to stop using the hell ride as a scape goat, because I have have seen as bad (and far worse riding) in various different bunches and locations in Melbourne.

I know this topic was posted sometme ago, but I wanted it to be heard, so we can all stop making miss informed comments from a distance.

I’m not saying the Hell Ride is a stand up example of cycling behavior now, but rather an observation you may all be pleased to hear that as stated above perhaps those “idiots” are now curbing their inclinations to do wrong (albeit less often).

]]> By: Sam http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2009/03/boycott-the-hell-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-18072 Sam Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:43:00 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=2094#comment-18072 I did the Hell Ride this morning. And I do Tuesday /Thursday North Road almost every week. I consider myslef a rider who follows the law and can use common sense to prevail over bunch mentality. For what it's worth, the behavior I observed in the bunch was fine, and absolutely no different to the NRR. The reason I bring this up, is to to point out that perhaps the attitudes of those cyclists who have behaved poorly in the past have changed or are changing. I think both motorists and cyclists alike need to stop using the hell ride as a scape goat, because I have have seen as bad (and far worse riding) in various different bunches and locations in Melbourne. I know this topic was posted sometme ago, but I wanted it to be heard, so we can all stop making miss informed comments from a distance. I'm not saying the Hell Ride is a stand up example of cycling behavior now, but rather an observation you may all be pleased to hear that as stated above perhaps those "idiots" are now curbing their inclinations to do wrong (albeit less often). I did the Hell Ride this morning. And I do Tuesday /Thursday North Road almost every week. I consider myslef a rider who follows the law and can use common sense to prevail over bunch mentality.

For what it’s worth, the behavior I observed in the bunch was fine, and absolutely no different to the NRR.

The reason I bring this up, is to to point out that perhaps the attitudes of those cyclists who have behaved poorly in the past have changed or are changing.

I think both motorists and cyclists alike need to stop using the hell ride as a scape goat, because I have have seen as bad (and far worse riding) in various different bunches and locations in Melbourne.

I know this topic was posted sometme ago, but I wanted it to be heard, so we can all stop making miss informed comments from a distance.

I’m not saying the Hell Ride is a stand up example of cycling behavior now, but rather an observation you may all be pleased to hear that as stated above perhaps those “idiots” are now curbing their inclinations to do wrong (albeit less often).

]]> By: Jim Connell http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2009/03/boycott-the-hell-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-1491 Jim Connell Wed, 06 May 2009 09:24:25 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=2094#comment-1491 And the website below is a ripper http://web.aanet.com.au/beach/hell%20ride.htm And the website below is a ripper

http://web.aanet.com.au/beach/hell%20ride.htm

]]> By: Jim Connell http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2009/03/boycott-the-hell-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-18071 Jim Connell Wed, 06 May 2009 09:24:00 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=2094#comment-18071 And the website below is a ripper http://web.aanet.com.au/beach/hell%20ride.htm And the website below is a ripper

http://web.aanet.com.au/beach/hell%20ride.htm

]]> By: Jim Connell http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2009/03/boycott-the-hell-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-1473 Jim Connell Wed, 06 May 2009 03:23:33 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=2094#comment-1473 This web site sums up the Hell & Pack Riders This web site sums up the Hell & Pack Riders

]]> By: Jim Connell http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2009/03/boycott-the-hell-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-18070 Jim Connell Wed, 06 May 2009 03:23:00 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=2094#comment-18070 This web site sums up the Hell & Pack Riders This web site sums up the Hell & Pack Riders

]]> By: clancy http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2009/03/boycott-the-hell-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-1203 clancy Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:02:59 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=2094#comment-1203 ok basically as much has been said the more committed, smarter, stronger riders ride the 6am north road bunch and during the colder months doesnt attract much over a group of 50 cyclists and even during the warmer months there isnt much trouble at all. this is because it is civilised, this is because most of the people who do it are experianced and know what they are doing. the hell ride on the other hand is an open ride waiting for disaster to happen. as a regular rider of both their is alot of differences. gone in the hell ride is the civility and incomes stupidity. alot of people who ride the hell ride are absolute idiots who are trying to prove they can make it with the big boys. boycott the hell ride? no it isnt going to work because it is a tradition and it is the few idiots that ruin it for everyone. ok basically as much has been said the more committed, smarter, stronger riders ride the 6am north road bunch and during the colder months doesnt attract much over a group of 50 cyclists and even during the warmer months there isnt much trouble at all. this is because it is civilised, this is because most of the people who do it are experianced and know what they are doing. the hell ride on the other hand is an open ride waiting for disaster to happen. as a regular rider of both their is alot of differences. gone in the hell ride is the civility and incomes stupidity. alot of people who ride the hell ride are absolute idiots who are trying to prove they can make it with the big boys. boycott the hell ride? no it isnt going to work because it is a tradition and it is the few idiots that ruin it for everyone.

]]> By: clancy http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2009/03/boycott-the-hell-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-18069 clancy Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:02:00 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=2094#comment-18069 ok basically as much has been said the more committed, smarter, stronger riders ride the 6am north road bunch and during the colder months doesnt attract much over a group of 50 cyclists and even during the warmer months there isnt much trouble at all. this is because it is civilised, this is because most of the people who do it are experianced and know what they are doing. the hell ride on the other hand is an open ride waiting for disaster to happen. as a regular rider of both their is alot of differences. gone in the hell ride is the civility and incomes stupidity. alot of people who ride the hell ride are absolute idiots who are trying to prove they can make it with the big boys. boycott the hell ride? no it isnt going to work because it is a tradition and it is the few idiots that ruin it for everyone. ok basically as much has been said the more committed, smarter, stronger riders ride the 6am north road bunch and during the colder months doesnt attract much over a group of 50 cyclists and even during the warmer months there isnt much trouble at all. this is because it is civilised, this is because most of the people who do it are experianced and know what they are doing. the hell ride on the other hand is an open ride waiting for disaster to happen. as a regular rider of both their is alot of differences. gone in the hell ride is the civility and incomes stupidity. alot of people who ride the hell ride are absolute idiots who are trying to prove they can make it with the big boys. boycott the hell ride? no it isnt going to work because it is a tradition and it is the few idiots that ruin it for everyone.

]]> By: Mike Goldie http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2009/03/boycott-the-hell-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-779 Mike Goldie Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:08:34 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=2094#comment-779 We are in different times so my comments relating to the 60's has little to do with today however as a young rider out with the pros and older amateurs we WERE regulated & castigated by the more experienced if we made unsafe or sudden movements. HunkidOry is correct about the North Rd ride and the need for leadership if you must do the Hell Ride. I am told that Robert Crow a highly respected man and champion cyclist did address riders regarding safety but was he listened to or did his comments fall on deaf ears. If I were coaching a young kid with ability I would instruct him to stay away from The Hell Ride but from what I see young guys get quite a buzz from mixing it with older guys on this ride. I doubt this ride will stop irrespective of our views or drum beating but if those who MUST do it can regulate the riders then at least others will see you taking some self action, which is what I am told Robert crow tried to achieve. Just ride safely. We are in different times so my comments relating to the 60′s has little to do with today however as a young rider out with the pros and older amateurs we WERE regulated & castigated by the more experienced if we made unsafe or sudden movements. HunkidOry is correct about the North Rd ride and the need for leadership if you must do the Hell Ride. I am told that Robert Crow a highly respected man and champion cyclist did address riders regarding safety but was he listened to or did his comments fall on deaf ears.
If I were coaching a young kid with ability I would instruct him to stay away from The Hell Ride but from what I see young guys get quite a buzz from mixing it with older guys on this ride.

I doubt this ride will stop irrespective of our views or drum beating but if those who MUST do it can regulate the riders then at least others will see you taking some self action, which is what I am told Robert crow tried to achieve.

Just ride safely.

]]> By: Mike Goldie http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2009/03/boycott-the-hell-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-18068 Mike Goldie Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:08:00 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=2094#comment-18068 We are in different times so my comments relating to the 60's has little to do with today however as a young rider out with the pros and older amateurs we WERE regulated & castigated by the more experienced if we made unsafe or sudden movements. HunkidOry is correct about the North Rd ride and the need for leadership if you must do the Hell Ride. I am told that Robert Crow a highly respected man and champion cyclist did address riders regarding safety but was he listened to or did his comments fall on deaf ears. If I were coaching a young kid with ability I would instruct him to stay away from The Hell Ride but from what I see young guys get quite a buzz from mixing it with older guys on this ride. I doubt this ride will stop irrespective of our views or drum beating but if those who MUST do it can regulate the riders then at least others will see you taking some self action, which is what I am told Robert crow tried to achieve. Just ride safely. We are in different times so my comments relating to the 60′s has little to do with today however as a young rider out with the pros and older amateurs we WERE regulated & castigated by the more experienced if we made unsafe or sudden movements. HunkidOry is correct about the North Rd ride and the need for leadership if you must do the Hell Ride. I am told that Robert Crow a highly respected man and champion cyclist did address riders regarding safety but was he listened to or did his comments fall on deaf ears.
If I were coaching a young kid with ability I would instruct him to stay away from The Hell Ride but from what I see young guys get quite a buzz from mixing it with older guys on this ride.

I doubt this ride will stop irrespective of our views or drum beating but if those who MUST do it can regulate the riders then at least others will see you taking some self action, which is what I am told Robert crow tried to achieve.

Just ride safely.

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