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	<title>Comments on: Theo Boss Incident Debunked</title>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/04/theo-boss-incident-debunked/comment-page-1/#comment-1630</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 20:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My View Theo was trying to move up no room clipped the railing came in on top of impey put his hand out and tried to push impey forward out of his way and in doing so came across the back of impey bike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My View Theo was trying to move up no room clipped the railing came in on top of impey put his hand out and tried to push impey forward out of his way and in doing so came across the back of impey bike</p>
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		<title>By: selcuk..</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/04/theo-boss-incident-debunked/comment-page-1/#comment-1428</link>
		<dc:creator>selcuk..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 13:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what theo did  was really bad.....  impey could have died...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what theo did  was really bad&#8230;..  impey could have died&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Andrews</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/04/theo-boss-incident-debunked/comment-page-1/#comment-1335</link>
		<dc:creator>John Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just came across the aerial video of this when waiting for L-B-L to start - on the Planet Armstrong show. It sure looks liemBos grabbed Impeys left shoulder jersey and dragged him down.  Surely if a track rider of Bo&#039;s experience would put both hands back on the bars and brake or move rather that hang on to anpother riders&#039; jersey ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came across the aerial video of this when waiting for L-B-L to start &#8211; on the Planet Armstrong show. It sure looks liemBos grabbed Impeys left shoulder jersey and dragged him down.  Surely if a track rider of Bo&#8217;s experience would put both hands back on the bars and brake or move rather that hang on to anpother riders&#8217; jersey ?</p>
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		<title>By: hustlejr</title>
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		<dc:creator>hustlejr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This video is invalid because in the video he grabs him by the pockets and falls down with him. 

I also believe Bos is innocent because if he really wanted to make him crash he would of pushed him away or grab the bars or something. What kind of person would want to bring themselves down just to make another rider crash going 55 km/h. But I donno, maybe Bos is insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This video is invalid because in the video he grabs him by the pockets and falls down with him. </p>
<p>I also believe Bos is innocent because if he really wanted to make him crash he would of pushed him away or grab the bars or something. What kind of person would want to bring themselves down just to make another rider crash going 55 km/h. But I donno, maybe Bos is insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Sketchy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sketchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems clear to me that the push changed to a grab somewhat like Jim (#11) described. It looks like Bos&#039; back end must have got into the barriers as he starts decelerating rapidly while still grabbing Impey&#039;s jersey. This pulls Impey into the barriers. It&#039;s not clear to me Impey falls at all without the grab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems clear to me that the push changed to a grab somewhat like Jim (#11) described. It looks like Bos&#8217; back end must have got into the barriers as he starts decelerating rapidly while still grabbing Impey&#8217;s jersey. This pulls Impey into the barriers. It&#8217;s not clear to me Impey falls at all without the grab.</p>
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		<title>By: sm</title>
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		<dc:creator>sm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes that has confirmed it for me - racing incident nothing more to it.. the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes that has confirmed it for me &#8211; racing incident nothing more to it.. the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember track days 25 years ago, rare but not uncommon to have a gun rider put his hand on your hip to either a) let you know it was his wheel and f*k off, b) keep you out of the way, c) very rarely manage to push you up slightly. It would not and could not knock you off, and was usually done just to stop someone chopping out either because you wanted the wheel or there would be nowhere to go if they kept coming down. 

So, I reckon Bos is a trackie still, he might have done this to just try to keep room given the barriers, the fall was not intentional. Not sure if there is a breach of UCI rules in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember track days 25 years ago, rare but not uncommon to have a gun rider put his hand on your hip to either a) let you know it was his wheel and f*k off, b) keep you out of the way, c) very rarely manage to push you up slightly. It would not and could not knock you off, and was usually done just to stop someone chopping out either because you wanted the wheel or there would be nowhere to go if they kept coming down. </p>
<p>So, I reckon Bos is a trackie still, he might have done this to just try to keep room given the barriers, the fall was not intentional. Not sure if there is a breach of UCI rules in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Blouse Wade!.  You didn&#039;t crash. 

Try it again, but this time ride along a narrow path and do anything you can to prevent yourself falling off the edge.  Now push each other around bit until the person on the left loses balance and it about to fall over the edge.   In desperation, change your gentle push into a grab of the other rider&#039;s jersey and haul them towards you as hard as you can to bring you back into line.   Make sure they&#039;re slightly in front of you then watch their bars interlock with yours (or run over their front front tyre, or bump their brakes - not sure exactly what happened there). 

So that&#039;s my theory.  A lean and jersey-grab is fairly easy to do while riding with one hand too.  I&#039;d be happy to help you re-test, and long as I&#039;m the guy on the left who gets to do the riding over the other body.

Jim..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Blouse Wade!.  You didn&#8217;t crash. </p>
<p>Try it again, but this time ride along a narrow path and do anything you can to prevent yourself falling off the edge.  Now push each other around bit until the person on the left loses balance and it about to fall over the edge.   In desperation, change your gentle push into a grab of the other rider&#8217;s jersey and haul them towards you as hard as you can to bring you back into line.   Make sure they&#8217;re slightly in front of you then watch their bars interlock with yours (or run over their front front tyre, or bump their brakes &#8211; not sure exactly what happened there). </p>
<p>So that&#8217;s my theory.  A lean and jersey-grab is fairly easy to do while riding with one hand too.  I&#8217;d be happy to help you re-test, and long as I&#8217;m the guy on the left who gets to do the riding over the other body.</p>
<p>Jim..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take on it is that Bos was being forced into the barrier so he grabs Impey&#039;s jersey and pushes him forwards (note Impey&#039;s jersey pulls up at the waist) to create room next to him so he can move right. Impey is slightly behind Bos at that point and since Bos&#039;s right arm is up, Impey&#039;s bars are able to hook behind Bos&#039;s, so as he is pushed he steers violently to the left giving the appearance of being pulled down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on it is that Bos was being forced into the barrier so he grabs Impey&#8217;s jersey and pushes him forwards (note Impey&#8217;s jersey pulls up at the waist) to create room next to him so he can move right. Impey is slightly behind Bos at that point and since Bos&#8217;s right arm is up, Impey&#8217;s bars are able to hook behind Bos&#8217;s, so as he is pushed he steers violently to the left giving the appearance of being pulled down.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo Boss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo Boss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am The Boss

The Boss Will crush thee, on thy puny Beach road for mentionig thy name in this nancy boy webpage.

I am flying in from my castle to do the &quot;LA DI DA&quot; North Road ride, and leave you in my wake, missing a tooth on the side of your smelly road.

I will hunt down helmet cam nancy O2 boy and eat his toes for supper.

PS - I had a HR of 83 when I crashed and was cruising, I would have won by millions of the miles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am The Boss</p>
<p>The Boss Will crush thee, on thy puny Beach road for mentionig thy name in this nancy boy webpage.</p>
<p>I am flying in from my castle to do the &#8220;LA DI DA&#8221; North Road ride, and leave you in my wake, missing a tooth on the side of your smelly road.</p>
<p>I will hunt down helmet cam nancy O2 boy and eat his toes for supper.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; I had a HR of 83 when I crashed and was cruising, I would have won by millions of the miles.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - Theo&#039;s fault, but unintentional and not malicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8211; Theo&#8217;s fault, but unintentional and not malicious.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian McGinley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian McGinley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The similar crash I&#039;ve seen was during a crit at glenvale one summer. The rider on the right hand side went down in a similar fashion to Impey and took down the equiv of Theo. No hand action and both riders had hands on bars.

The Theo rider ended up crashing out the Impey rider by putting a pedal into the rear wheel. Caused Impey to come left across Theo in a similar manner.

So Theo was forced away from the snaking barriers into Impey, at the same time as reaching out to give him clearance from Impey; pedal collected rear wheel and both go down.

Looks intentional; but I reckon Theo is guilty of one thing, taking his hand off the bars in the last 600metres.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The similar crash I&#8217;ve seen was during a crit at glenvale one summer. The rider on the right hand side went down in a similar fashion to Impey and took down the equiv of Theo. No hand action and both riders had hands on bars.</p>
<p>The Theo rider ended up crashing out the Impey rider by putting a pedal into the rear wheel. Caused Impey to come left across Theo in a similar manner.</p>
<p>So Theo was forced away from the snaking barriers into Impey, at the same time as reaching out to give him clearance from Impey; pedal collected rear wheel and both go down.</p>
<p>Looks intentional; but I reckon Theo is guilty of one thing, taking his hand off the bars in the last 600metres.</p>
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