Comments on: Bending The Rules http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/10/bending-the-rules/ Cycling Tips, Hints, and Tricks Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:20:34 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Pimp My Ride http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/10/bending-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-6726 Pimp My Ride Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:26:41 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=6871#comment-6726 [...] other piece of swag I received for all my lackie work was Ben Greenwood’s broken team frame (as shown above).   The carbon frame is fixable so I thought this would be a [...] [...] other piece of swag I received for all my lackie work was Ben Greenwood’s broken team frame (as shown above).   The carbon frame is fixable so I thought this would be a [...]

]]> By: Pimp My Ride! http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/10/bending-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-6590 Pimp My Ride! Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:41:14 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=6871#comment-6590 [...] other piece of swag I received for all my lackie work was Ben Greenwood’s broken team frame (as shown above).   The carbon frame is fixable so I thought this would be a [...] [...] other piece of swag I received for all my lackie work was Ben Greenwood’s broken team frame (as shown above).   The carbon frame is fixable so I thought this would be a [...]

]]> By: jim-bob http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/10/bending-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5941 jim-bob Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:09:16 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=6871#comment-5941 i can't stand ppl that bend the rules in crits. Fair enough if you are held up by a crash or involved in a crash. But pretending to crash or have a mechanical when your struggling, then re-joining at the front and dropping a whole bunch of wheels 'till ur out the back again is just pathetic. Wheel-droppers are bad enough let alone cheating wheel-droppers. anyway a very insightful and entertaining post!! i can’t stand ppl that bend the rules in crits. Fair enough if you are held up by a crash or involved in a crash. But pretending to crash or have a mechanical when your struggling, then re-joining at the front and dropping a whole bunch of wheels ’till ur out the back again is just pathetic. Wheel-droppers are bad enough let alone cheating wheel-droppers. anyway a very insightful and entertaining post!!

]]> By: cyclingtips http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/10/bending-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5897 cyclingtips Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:34:18 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=6871#comment-5897 I agree that at our level it's bad form to cheat at our level, but at the professional level it's the difference between having a job and being left behind. The amount of pressure put on athletes to perform is enormous. There's up to 200 riders in these races and there can only be one winner. It's much more than a sport at the professional level. When money is involved there are many facets of society bend the rules to get ahead (do you have any idea how often corporations cheat to win the deal, get the better price, beat the competition, etc?). Not many people can claim they're above it. Imagine if you're from some 3rd world country and your only options are to win or to be left in poverty. I don't think it's a question of low self-worth as you say. I don't condone cheating however I can see the other side of it. Dismissing it as pathetic and having a low self-worth is a bit simplistic when we're talking about professional sports. I agree that at our level it’s bad form to cheat at our level, but at the professional level it’s the difference between having a job and being left behind. The amount of pressure put on athletes to perform is enormous. There’s up to 200 riders in these races and there can only be one winner. It’s much more than a sport at the professional level.

When money is involved there are many facets of society bend the rules to get ahead (do you have any idea how often corporations cheat to win the deal, get the better price, beat the competition, etc?). Not many people can claim they’re above it.

Imagine if you’re from some 3rd world country and your only options are to win or to be left in poverty. I don’t think it’s a question of low self-worth as you say.

I don’t condone cheating however I can see the other side of it. Dismissing it as pathetic and having a low self-worth is a bit simplistic when we’re talking about professional sports.

]]> By: Kouros http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/10/bending-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5896 Kouros Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:40:00 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=6871#comment-5896 I've never really understood why people feel the need to cheat in sporting events. You're either good enough, or you're not. How low must your self worth be to want to fool anyone - including yourself - that you are good at something you are not. It's pathetic. I’ve never really understood why people feel the need to cheat in sporting events. You’re either good enough, or you’re not. How low must your self worth be to want to fool anyone – including yourself – that you are good at something you are not. It’s pathetic.

]]> By: Tommy P http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/10/bending-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5895 Tommy P Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:56:53 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=6871#comment-5895 CT, for all these 'tactics' and much, much more, you could have just consulted our cuddly friend Mo. CT, for all these ‘tactics’ and much, much more, you could have just consulted our cuddly friend Mo.

]]> By: Justin http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/10/bending-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5884 Justin Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:11:16 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=6871#comment-5884 Hahah! Some great insights into the PRO world there... Love it - thanks a bunch Ben, hope you're back on the pushy again soon! Hahah! Some great insights into the PRO world there… Love it – thanks a bunch Ben, hope you’re back on the pushy again soon!

]]> By: Jon http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/10/bending-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5880 Jon Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:04:26 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=6871#comment-5880 Great post Ben and commiserations for the crash. Great post Ben and commiserations for the crash.

]]> By: Pete http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/10/bending-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5876 Pete Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:28:09 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=6871#comment-5876 Ha! Terrific post! Thanks for the advice! Ha! Terrific post! Thanks for the advice!

]]> By: pete http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/10/bending-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5873 pete Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:01:03 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=6871#comment-5873 thanks for the "tip", im blaming my parents for now never being able to cheat in a bike race !! looking forward to todays crit, hope the rain holds out and darren or dean can bring home the spoils of war thanks for the “tip”, im blaming my parents for now never being able to cheat in a bike race !! looking forward to todays crit, hope the rain holds out and darren or dean can bring home the spoils of war

]]> By: Beagle http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/10/bending-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5867 Beagle Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:23:45 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=6871#comment-5867 Great post! I think I've learned more about cycling in 6 months reading this blog...than in all the years I've followed cycling. I used to think that the winner was the strongest, then I thought it was the smartest, then I thought it was the one with the best team...now I know it's the one who's willing to hide in a bush and be pissed on in order to win. Great post! I think I’ve learned more about cycling in 6 months reading this blog…than in all the years I’ve followed cycling. I used to think that the winner was the strongest, then I thought it was the smartest, then I thought it was the one with the best team…now I know it’s the one who’s willing to hide in a bush and be pissed on in order to win.

]]> By: Lee http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/10/bending-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5865 Lee Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:15:10 +0000 http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/?p=6871#comment-5865 Thanks for the awesome post Ben, condolences for the crash out although this is certainly a silver lining for us readers! Looking forward to Lygon Street tomorrow! Thanks for the awesome post Ben, condolences for the crash out although this is certainly a silver lining for us readers! Looking forward to Lygon Street tomorrow!

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