Cycliquette Shortlist

Cool – Cycliquette; This list.

Cool – Cycliquette; This list.

telling people when they’ve done stupid things is key. It might suck, and you might have to muster a bit of courage, but it needs to be done. Most people won’t know unless they are told. It might result in getting told off but your conscience will be clean.

telling people when they’ve done stupid things is key. It might suck, and you might have to muster a bit of courage, but it needs to be done. Most people won’t know unless they are told. It might result in getting told off but your conscience will be clean.

Nice work, Wade.
“Showing some courtesy and acknowledgment to motorists. It costs nothing to give a smile or a wave to someone who slowed down or showed some respect for you. You’re on a public road and not in a race. Use the same social etiquette that the rest of society uses.”
So important, and will minimise the current animosity in between cyclists and drivers.
We could even start by acknowledging other cyclist on the road…
A.

Nice work, Wade.
“Showing some courtesy and acknowledgment to motorists. It costs nothing to give a smile or a wave to someone who slowed down or showed some respect for you. You’re on a public road and not in a race. Use the same social etiquette that the rest of society uses.”
So important, and will minimise the current animosity in between cyclists and drivers.
We could even start by acknowledging other cyclist on the road…
A.

One of the Total Rush guys (whose name I will censor) I know he is a reader, addressed the North Rd bunch this morning, just expressing the concerns you have mentioned. The bunch did seem to behave a little better, including a few more people calling out silly moves and cars approaching from the rear. Its only baby steps but its a start.
Let keep this positive and keep it going forward

One of the Total Rush guys (whose name I will censor) I know he is a reader, addressed the North Rd bunch this morning, just expressing the concerns you have mentioned. The bunch did seem to behave a little better, including a few more people calling out silly moves and cars approaching from the rear. Its only baby steps but its a start.
Let keep this positive and keep it going forward

Great short list, I’m sure it was hard to cut it down to a manageable size. I’ll definitely direct all my newcomer friends here.

Great short list, I’m sure it was hard to cut it down to a manageable size. I’ll definitely direct all my newcomer friends here.

I did Amy’s ride at the start of the year and I found that it was no different to the NNR for the front groups. 3 or more abreast, over taking when cars were coming etc etc. I might be wrong – but it was almost anti productive.

This is a good concise “cool” list. With the talking out being the main one.
On beach Rd on the weekends, and see cyclists doing the wrong thing – tell them -dont shout/yell abuse, not all of them may be aware that they are doing something wrong.

I did Amy’s ride at the start of the year and I found that it was no different to the NNR for the front groups. 3 or more abreast, over taking when cars were coming etc etc. I might be wrong – but it was almost anti productive.

This is a good concise “cool” list. With the talking out being the main one.
On beach Rd on the weekends, and see cyclists doing the wrong thing – tell them -dont shout/yell abuse, not all of them may be aware that they are doing something wrong.

Yawn………….Boring…………………

Yawn………….Boring…………………

Word to the W.

My only thing is the iPod. This should be personal choice. I have it up so I have hear groups/cars etc behind me.

If I didn’t wear one, I’d have ear plugs. Traffic noise is horrible.

Also: if a car is gonna hit me from behind, I DO NOT want to hear it happen. That might sound silly, but it’s how it is.

Wade: this morning on the NRR I again see people running deep reds (after people called stopping on deep yellows) and clowns just swerving into inner lane without looking.

Fark.

We are our own worst enemy.

Word to the W.

My only thing is the iPod. This should be personal choice. I have it up so I have hear groups/cars etc behind me.

If I didn’t wear one, I’d have ear plugs. Traffic noise is horrible.

Also: if a car is gonna hit me from behind, I DO NOT want to hear it happen. That might sound silly, but it’s how it is.

Wade: this morning on the NRR I again see people running deep reds (after people called stopping on deep yellows) and clowns just swerving into inner lane without looking.

Fark.

We are our own worst enemy.

There was only one this morning, on the front in white ja?

It was a bit better but still silly at times.

There was only one this morning, on the front in white ja?

It was a bit better but still silly at times.

cycliquette…

I like to ride, but I’m not a racer. Some silly things happen on roads – silly riding as well as silly driving.

So I like this. Commitments from riders (rather than riders simply making demands on drivers).

And cyclingtipsblog.com is one of my…

This is a good point. I sometimes think these rides are counter productive.

I recall a fair few times rolling into Geelong and being screamed at by absolute rednecks to “Get the Eff off the roads you lycra p00fs”.

Perhaps Geelong isn’t the best place for it.

Last year I was lucky enough to ride next to, and chat to, C Evans from Barwon Heads all the way into Torquay. In between chatting he spent a lot of time calling riders out of the opposite lane, calling people into line. He sounded horrified. And rightly so. It’s his training ground and that cr@p reflects on everyone as a whole.

We’re viewed as cyclists, not individual people who make mistakes.

Like I’ve said before this is a people problem.

This is a good point. I sometimes think these rides are counter productive.

I recall a fair few times rolling into Geelong and being screamed at by absolute rednecks to “Get the Eff off the roads you lycra p00fs”.

Perhaps Geelong isn’t the best place for it.

Last year I was lucky enough to ride next to, and chat to, C Evans from Barwon Heads all the way into Torquay. In between chatting he spent a lot of time calling riders out of the opposite lane, calling people into line. He sounded horrified. And rightly so. It’s his training ground and that cr@p reflects on everyone as a whole.

We’re viewed as cyclists, not individual people who make mistakes.

Like I’ve said before this is a people problem.

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Good stuff WW, I will do my best to abide!

Good stuff WW, I will do my best to abide!

Good to hear Leigh’s account of the above, particularly in light of what I witnessed Tuesday week ago (TFM rider vs truck) but my (and others’) experience of this morning’s 5.45am NRR was different – big, dumb and ugly: running reds, swarming all over the Nepean Hwy from the railway bridge to the Mordi turn. Riders charging up on the inside.

Rolled off early and did my own thing.

Bunch caught me in Elwood, and clowns in red realestate.com.au kit were riding in the outside lane, and stopped there at the Glenhuntly Road intersection – no sprint, nothing much happening, but there they were.

Good to hear Leigh’s account of the above, particularly in light of what I witnessed Tuesday week ago (TFM rider vs truck) but my (and others’) experience of this morning’s 5.45am NRR was different – big, dumb and ugly: running reds, swarming all over the Nepean Hwy from the railway bridge to the Mordi turn. Riders charging up on the inside.

Rolled off early and did my own thing.

Bunch caught me in Elwood, and clowns in red realestate.com.au kit were riding in the outside lane, and stopped there at the Glenhuntly Road intersection – no sprint, nothing much happening, but there they were.

Good stuuf.

If a group aproaches a red or yellow and people call stopping; if someone goes through, chat them after, but don’t chace hard to pull them back in, that will only encourage more people to jump the light. I think i remember a comment from the last few months on here: “Don’t chase muppets”

Waving to motorists who do the right thing:- I also wave at motorists that sound their horn. It may be aunty Gladis tooting hello, but if it is someone in a fury at my p00fy lycra, then who cares, it may even diffuse their anger by a fraction.

On the headphones, when I ride alone, i wear them. They are not so loud that I can’t hear traffic, they are also plugged into my phone, so when my wife uses her super-sensory power to call when I am approaching the crest of the hardest hill of the ride, i can safely answer.

The key to have Cycliquette spread, is to have the courage to call people out, even if they a wannbe-pros and you are wearing your KT-26s and stckhat ;-).

John Citizen, if you found it so boring, how did you muster the enthusiasm to post a reply?

Good stuuf.

If a group aproaches a red or yellow and people call stopping; if someone goes through, chat them after, but don’t chace hard to pull them back in, that will only encourage more people to jump the light. I think i remember a comment from the last few months on here: “Don’t chase muppets”

Waving to motorists who do the right thing:- I also wave at motorists that sound their horn. It may be aunty Gladis tooting hello, but if it is someone in a fury at my p00fy lycra, then who cares, it may even diffuse their anger by a fraction.

On the headphones, when I ride alone, i wear them. They are not so loud that I can’t hear traffic, they are also plugged into my phone, so when my wife uses her super-sensory power to call when I am approaching the crest of the hardest hill of the ride, i can safely answer.

The key to have Cycliquette spread, is to have the courage to call people out, even if they a wannbe-pros and you are wearing your KT-26s and stckhat ;-).

John Citizen, if you found it so boring, how did you muster the enthusiasm to post a reply?

Thanks for the enthusiasm John! I realize this topic isn’t “fun” to talk about. It might be more rebellious and so-called “cool” to laugh about our behavior on the roads while running red lights, telling off old ladies and having sprint finishes in traffic. However, I have nothing to prove out there and I think there’s a overwhelmingly strong consensus that something needs to be done to change our perception on the roads.

Feel free to comment on your ideas and contribute to the solution instead of heckling from the sidelines . I’m certain you have something of value to offer.

Thanks for the enthusiasm John! I realize this topic isn’t “fun” to talk about. It might be more rebellious and so-called “cool” to laugh about our behavior on the roads while running red lights, telling off old ladies and having sprint finishes in traffic. However, I have nothing to prove out there and I think there’s a overwhelmingly strong consensus that something needs to be done to change our perception on the roads.

Feel free to comment on your ideas and contribute to the solution instead of heckling from the sidelines . I’m certain you have something of value to offer.

with the NRR, why ride it if it is so crap? i understand it is good for developing bunch skills, although by the sounds of it, it is a bit messy? i’d always go for a small pack or solo training, and use races to develop those skills…

with the NRR, why ride it if it is so crap? i understand it is good for developing bunch skills, although by the sounds of it, it is a bit messy? i’d always go for a small pack or solo training, and use races to develop those skills…

ModCon the front 1/3 is ok usually. I got picked up with about 7k to go today and it was 2 abreast and not too bad until we got toward the end, at which point, people started swarming inside lanes (hello red lycra).

It’s ok until you get toward the end and the sprint monsters sprint for BP glory.
Perhaps rolling off just before that may be prudent. One does find oneself caught up in the adrenaline of it, oft-times.

Goes to show, more bike time = cooler head.

10,000 hours on the bike to get good at it.

ModCon the front 1/3 is ok usually. I got picked up with about 7k to go today and it was 2 abreast and not too bad until we got toward the end, at which point, people started swarming inside lanes (hello red lycra).

It’s ok until you get toward the end and the sprint monsters sprint for BP glory.
Perhaps rolling off just before that may be prudent. One does find oneself caught up in the adrenaline of it, oft-times.

Goes to show, more bike time = cooler head.

10,000 hours on the bike to get good at it.

fair enough, i understand the adrenaline rush… but i’d rather being pingin up a steady climb chasin a solo rider than gettin owned by a pack of hubbards on beach rd… :D

fair enough, i understand the adrenaline rush… but i’d rather being pingin up a steady climb chasin a solo rider than gettin owned by a pack of hubbards on beach rd… :D

Great to get to this from the swarm of comments that the original post prompted. The list is concise, without pointing out the obvious.

One thing that one of the comments here suggested, and I think goes to the heart of the matter, we acknowledge other cyclists on the road by smiling, raising your little finger, whatever. No-one else in society gives a FF about how important our cycling is to us, and frankly it is not going to save the world, so we might as well behave in a humane (or at least human) way to each other.

Great to get to this from the swarm of comments that the original post prompted. The list is concise, without pointing out the obvious.

One thing that one of the comments here suggested, and I think goes to the heart of the matter, we acknowledge other cyclists on the road by smiling, raising your little finger, whatever. No-one else in society gives a FF about how important our cycling is to us, and frankly it is not going to save the world, so we might as well behave in a humane (or at least human) way to each other.

All these things are a personal choice Tim.d

By wearing ear plugs, you are shutting yourself off to the world. How is anyone else able to know you have them turned down.

Cars have mirrors to see what is going on around them, all a cyclist has is sound.

Other riders need to know you can hear them. That is not possible if you have ear plugs in.

All these things are a personal choice Tim.d

By wearing ear plugs, you are shutting yourself off to the world. How is anyone else able to know you have them turned down.

Cars have mirrors to see what is going on around them, all a cyclist has is sound.

Other riders need to know you can hear them. That is not possible if you have ear plugs in.

I put a link on a SE/QLD cycling site so the word (list) gets around!

I put a link on a SE/QLD cycling site so the word (list) gets around!

Good list. The first one is the best.
I’ve never been shy about shouting down stupid motorists and cyclists, but the cycliquette discussion has prompted me to tone this down (a fraction) and try and focus on being courteous and even positive towards people who do the right thing. Cyclists are an “at risk” minority – given that people can sit in their warm, safe cars and not give a toss, change has got to start with those of us on 2 wheels.
Peak oil means we’ll win in the end – we can afford to be magnanimous about it.

Good list. The first one is the best.
I’ve never been shy about shouting down stupid motorists and cyclists, but the cycliquette discussion has prompted me to tone this down (a fraction) and try and focus on being courteous and even positive towards people who do the right thing. Cyclists are an “at risk” minority – given that people can sit in their warm, safe cars and not give a toss, change has got to start with those of us on 2 wheels.
Peak oil means we’ll win in the end – we can afford to be magnanimous about it.

Thanks AMR. Much appreciated

Thanks AMR. Much appreciated

Good list, I’ve made extra effort recently to acknowledge courteous road use when commuting and training.

CT, there was talk a while ago of doing a post on how to get involved in racing. Maybe this would help in some way (i.e; if the heroes are racing, they’ll be less inclined to treat Beach Rd. like a race track). Just an idea, I don’t know how many of the “problem” riders already race.

Great work, keep it coming.

Good list, I’ve made extra effort recently to acknowledge courteous road use when commuting and training.

CT, there was talk a while ago of doing a post on how to get involved in racing. Maybe this would help in some way (i.e; if the heroes are racing, they’ll be less inclined to treat Beach Rd. like a race track). Just an idea, I don’t know how many of the “problem” riders already race.

Great work, keep it coming.

I think that is an interesting idea, but it is easier to hide in a pack on Beach Rd, and I think that is why people do it. I think lots of people are competitive without realising the right place for it; the same reason people speed in cars, just like commuters will try and flog you at the lights when you are out training. Instinctive.

I think that is an interesting idea, but it is easier to hide in a pack on Beach Rd, and I think that is why people do it. I think lots of people are competitive without realising the right place for it; the same reason people speed in cars, just like commuters will try and flog you at the lights when you are out training. Instinctive.

fyi, you’re legally a publisher and since you can moderate comments (ie remove them, solicit them, etc) then what gets put in comments is your responsibility. It’s no different than letters to an editor, if the editor publishes the editor is liable as the issue is *publication*.

fyi, you’re legally a publisher and since you can moderate comments (ie remove them, solicit them, etc) then what gets put in comments is your responsibility. It’s no different than letters to an editor, if the editor publishes the editor is liable as the issue is *publication*.

One other problem with just starting out racing is that people are told to do as many group rides as possible first to get used to pack riding. So they go to beach rd and NNR 1st before starting to race.

One other problem with just starting out racing is that people are told to do as many group rides as possible first to get used to pack riding. So they go to beach rd and NNR 1st before starting to race.

And?

And?

You’re making the assumption I even have them on (sometimes I don’t) or too loud to hear.

Planning for the lowest common denominator is expensive and usually a wasteful exercise (read Seth Godin to understand why).

You’re making the assumption I even have them on (sometimes I don’t) or too loud to hear.

Planning for the lowest common denominator is expensive and usually a wasteful exercise (read Seth Godin to understand why).

HAHAH, that’s funny as. (And I agree)

Hmmm, I do wish we had the ability to edit our own comments.

HAHAH, that’s funny as. (And I agree)

Hmmm, I do wish we had the ability to edit our own comments.

This is great. Courtesy to pedestrians, runners, cyclists and vehicles is of paramount importance. Every time I acknowledge someone else it crosses my mind that hopefully I may have just made it easier for another cyclist somewhere. After walking 25kms along the Yarra River recently is constantly amazed me at how rude some cyclists are.

This is great. Courtesy to pedestrians, runners, cyclists and vehicles is of paramount importance. Every time I acknowledge someone else it crosses my mind that hopefully I may have just made it easier for another cyclist somewhere. After walking 25kms along the Yarra River recently is constantly amazed me at how rude some cyclists are.

Thanks Adrian. I’ve been advised of this and therefore have to moderate the odd comment now and again. Wish I didn’t have to do this but that’s life.

Thanks Adrian. I’ve been advised of this and therefore have to moderate the odd comment now and again. Wish I didn’t have to do this but that’s life.

Great list of ideas.

I would still have mentioned the red light issue as i think it’s paramount to cyclists wishing to gain respect from other road users. It happens so frequently i deserves a mention.

Great list of ideas.

I would still have mentioned the red light issue as i think it’s paramount to cyclists wishing to gain respect from other road users. It happens so frequently i deserves a mention.

Hey WW, when does the kit come out??

Hey WW, when does the kit come out??

you’ve read malcolm gladwell haven’t you?

(if you haven’t, or for anyone else, his theory is 10,000 hours makes you an expert in your field)

you’ve read malcolm gladwell haven’t you?

(if you haven’t, or for anyone else, his theory is 10,000 hours makes you an expert in your field)

Kit has been ordered and should be here in December. I went with one of the best clothing manufacturers and I’m extremely excited about the design we put together. I don’t expect everyone to like it, but I certainly do so I’m sure others will as well. I’ll put a post up taking pre-orders soon. Cheers…

Kit has been ordered and should be here in December. I went with one of the best clothing manufacturers and I’m extremely excited about the design we put together. I don’t expect everyone to like it, but I certainly do so I’m sure others will as well. I’ll put a post up taking pre-orders soon. Cheers…

The 10 000 hours is fascinating stuff. He talks it up in his book, Outliers. However the real research is based on a major review from 2000 by Ericsson. In a nutshell, the one variable that differentiates world experts from all others, across a variety of fields, is deliberate practice. That’s not the same as play or work. It’s deliberate, intense, genuine practice.

For the psychologically inclined (or anyone else that is interested) see http://www.psy.fsu.edu/faculty/ericsson/ericsson.exp.perf.html

The 10 000 hours is fascinating stuff. He talks it up in his book, Outliers. However the real research is based on a major review from 2000 by Ericsson. In a nutshell, the one variable that differentiates world experts from all others, across a variety of fields, is deliberate practice. That’s not the same as play or work. It’s deliberate, intense, genuine practice.

For the psychologically inclined (or anyone else that is interested) see http://www.psy.fsu.edu/faculty/ericsson/ericsson.exp.perf.html

Wade

Some great posts and a really useful debate. You are on the money with the idea that to get respect we have to show respect.

One basic unpinnig that I think has been missing is that we all need to know the road rules as they apply to cyclist. eg the NSW RTA site on bike laws. http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/bicycles/cyclingrules.html
It opening line is something we all need to understand. A bike on the road is a vehicle.

I think if we all understand that then your list makes a lot more sense.

Maybe some links to the relevant sites for each state would be good.

Keep up the good work. The Sun Tour series was really good.

Wade

Some great posts and a really useful debate. You are on the money with the idea that to get respect we have to show respect.

One basic unpinnig that I think has been missing is that we all need to know the road rules as they apply to cyclist. eg the NSW RTA site on bike laws. http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/bicycles/cyclingrules.html
It opening line is something we all need to understand. A bike on the road is a vehicle.

I think if we all understand that then your list makes a lot more sense.

Maybe some links to the relevant sites for each state would be good.

Keep up the good work. The Sun Tour series was really good.

Thanks Michael. I’m glad people from other states are joining in the discussion. I have my doubts that this situation is unique to Melbourne.

Here’s some road rules for Vic: http://www.roadrules.vicroads.vic.gov.au/9_rule_cyclists.html

There’s not much substance there but it’s all that VicRoads has.

Thanks re the SunTour. Was a really fun covering!

Thanks Michael. I’m glad people from other states are joining in the discussion. I have my doubts that this situation is unique to Melbourne.

Here’s some road rules for Vic: http://www.roadrules.vicroads.vic.gov.au/9_rule_cyclists.html

There’s not much substance there but it’s all that VicRoads has.

Thanks re the SunTour. Was a really fun covering!

This is excellent and I will direct my cycling friends here, but I still don’t know how to have the “balls” (I’m a girl) to call out the dangerous cyclists on rides, especially when I’m not the fastest.

At a recent city planning meeting about bike lanes, a member of the city’s largest cycling club approached me with materials inviting me to ride with them. I politely refused and flat out told him that I had spoken with no less than 10 people about how bad their “cycliquette” is: riding five or more abreast, getting in altercations with motorists, trying to race cars in traffic, abandoning slower riders on back roads without maps, etc. He took great offense and was no longer interested in having me ride with them.

The importance of this hit home the other day when a huge, jacked-up truck cut me off (I was driving). I live in Texas, home of the huge, jacked-up truck. I’ve had enough bad experiences with them that I tend to say, without thinking, “I hate all big trucks; the people who drive them are reckless.”

Of course, I don’t hate all big trucks. There are so many on the road and not very many of them drive dangerously. But I extrapolate because I’ve had a handful of negative experiences. THE SAME IS TRUE FOR CYCLISTS. You might think that you’re just one careless cyclist, but it only takes a few for drivers to brand us all as nuisances. Try turning that impression around; it will take more of us to do that, so we need everyone involved.

Oh, and cycling safely just might save your life. We’ve had too many bicycle vs. car deaths here in south Texas this year.

This is excellent and I will direct my cycling friends here, but I still don’t know how to have the “balls” (I’m a girl) to call out the dangerous cyclists on rides, especially when I’m not the fastest.

At a recent city planning meeting about bike lanes, a member of the city’s largest cycling club approached me with materials inviting me to ride with them. I politely refused and flat out told him that I had spoken with no less than 10 people about how bad their “cycliquette” is: riding five or more abreast, getting in altercations with motorists, trying to race cars in traffic, abandoning slower riders on back roads without maps, etc. He took great offense and was no longer interested in having me ride with them.

The importance of this hit home the other day when a huge, jacked-up truck cut me off (I was driving). I live in Texas, home of the huge, jacked-up truck. I’ve had enough bad experiences with them that I tend to say, without thinking, “I hate all big trucks; the people who drive them are reckless.”

Of course, I don’t hate all big trucks. There are so many on the road and not very many of them drive dangerously. But I extrapolate because I’ve had a handful of negative experiences. THE SAME IS TRUE FOR CYCLISTS. You might think that you’re just one careless cyclist, but it only takes a few for drivers to brand us all as nuisances. Try turning that impression around; it will take more of us to do that, so we need everyone involved.

Oh, and cycling safely just might save your life. We’ve had too many bicycle vs. car deaths here in south Texas this year.

I think one of the crucial things missing with our interaction with drivers is when they do make mistakes and put us at risk on our bikes is education. I was out a couple of months ago and had a revelation moment when me and a stranger i was with at the time got cut off goes like this

Cut off by driver changing lanes in front to avoid right turning traffic, we caught him at the next set of lights and the guy i was with (dont know him) then proceeded to give the driver a 30 second spray with every expletive used even dropped the C word to say i was stunned and cringing was an understatement and then the poinient moment arrived

The motorist calmly wound down his window and said the following “now you have had your bit let me have mine you have abused me for the last minute and i still have no idea what i have done wrong so you can either calm down and tell me or f##k off”

Got me thinking no point abusing someone if they do not know what they did wrong

I think one of the crucial things missing with our interaction with drivers is when they do make mistakes and put us at risk on our bikes is education. I was out a couple of months ago and had a revelation moment when me and a stranger i was with at the time got cut off goes like this

Cut off by driver changing lanes in front to avoid right turning traffic, we caught him at the next set of lights and the guy i was with (dont know him) then proceeded to give the driver a 30 second spray with every expletive used even dropped the C word to say i was stunned and cringing was an understatement and then the poinient moment arrived

The motorist calmly wound down his window and said the following “now you have had your bit let me have mine you have abused me for the last minute and i still have no idea what i have done wrong so you can either calm down and tell me or f##k off”

Got me thinking no point abusing someone if they do not know what they did wrong

I think one of the crucial things missing with our interaction with drivers is when they do make mistakes and put us at risk on our bikes is education. I was out a couple of months ago and had a revelation moment when me and a stranger i was with at the time got cut off goes like this

Cut off by driver changing lanes in front to avoid right turning traffic, we caught him at the next set of lights and the guy i was with (dont know him) then proceeded to give the driver a 30 second spray with every expletive used even dropped the C word to say i was stunned and cringing was an understatement and then the poinient moment arrived

The motorist calmly wound down his window and said the following “now you have had your bit let me have mine you have abused me for the last minute and i still have no idea what i have done wrong so you can either calm down and tell me or f##k off”

Got me thinking no point abusing someone if they do not know what they did wrong

I saw one of your holier than thou teammates out on this morning’s bunch ride CT. While everyone was riding 2 abreast and generally looking respectable one of your O2 mates jumps out from the group into the other lane of busy traffic, drafts a truck, and chops back into the bunch. You’re a f*&^ing hypocrite if you can’t even keep your own team under control. People look up to teams like yours and this is the example you’re setting.

I saw one of your holier than thou teammates out on this morning’s bunch ride CT. While everyone was riding 2 abreast and generally looking respectable one of your O2 mates jumps out from the group into the other lane of busy traffic, drafts a truck, and chops back into the bunch. You’re a f*&^ing hypocrite if you can’t even keep your own team under control. People look up to teams like yours and this is the example you’re setting.

I saw one of your holier than thou teammates out on this morning’s bunch ride CT. While everyone was riding 2 abreast and generally looking respectable one of your O2 mates jumps out from the group into the other lane of busy traffic, drafts a truck, and chops back into the bunch. You’re a f*&^ing hypocrite if you can’t even keep your own team under control. People look up to teams like yours and this is the example you’re setting.

Thanks for the comment Marc. I saw this too. I completely agree and pulled my mate aside when I caught up with him after the ride. In fact, the team I ride with will be signing a code of conduct to show that we won’t tolerate this type of riding. It doesn’t do cycling any good and looks very bad on our sponsors.

Thanks for the comment Marc. I saw this too. I completely agree and pulled my mate aside when I caught up with him after the ride. In fact, the team I ride with will be signing a code of conduct to show that we won’t tolerate this type of riding. It doesn’t do cycling any good and looks very bad on our sponsors.

Thanks for the comment Marc. I saw this too. I completely agree and pulled my mate aside when I caught up with him after the ride. In fact, the team I ride with will be signing a code of conduct to show that we won’t tolerate this type of riding. It doesn’t do cycling any good and looks very bad on our sponsors.

Fair comment Marc. What’s your team and do they always ride correctly? You can’t expect one person to be responsible for everyone. So don’t be a wanker.

Fair comment Marc. What’s your team and do they always ride correctly? You can’t expect one person to be responsible for everyone. So don’t be a wanker.

Fair comment Marc. What’s your team and do they always ride correctly? You can’t expect one person to be responsible for everyone. So don’t be a wanker.

Right – I can only control my own actions and speak up when I see fit. I can’t carry the weight of the peloton on my shoulders for anything beyond that. If u see me doing stupid stuff, by all means give me some grief!

Right – I can only control my own actions and speak up when I see fit. I can’t carry the weight of the peloton on my shoulders for anything beyond that. If u see me doing stupid stuff, by all means give me some grief!

Right – I can only control my own actions and speak up when I see fit. I can’t carry the weight of the peloton on my shoulders for anything beyond that. If u see me doing stupid stuff, by all means give me some grief!

Yeah being in the 12%

Yeah being in the 12%

Yeah being in the 12%

Good to see a bit of leadership – I’ve stayed away from the NRR for quite a while now. Too many numbies who cant follow a wheel that then tell you to F%^k Off when you suggest for their safety and that of others they get in behind someone and not half wheel up the middle. Probably the other thing I noticed was the every increasing number of TT bikes lurking in the bunch – WTF are you doing on a TT bike drafting?

Good to see a bit of leadership – I’ve stayed away from the NRR for quite a while now. Too many numbies who cant follow a wheel that then tell you to F%^k Off when you suggest for their safety and that of others they get in behind someone and not half wheel up the middle. Probably the other thing I noticed was the every increasing number of TT bikes lurking in the bunch – WTF are you doing on a TT bike drafting?

Good to see a bit of leadership – I’ve stayed away from the NRR for quite a while now. Too many numbies who cant follow a wheel that then tell you to F%^k Off when you suggest for their safety and that of others they get in behind someone and not half wheel up the middle. Probably the other thing I noticed was the every increasing number of TT bikes lurking in the bunch – WTF are you doing on a TT bike drafting?

Thanks for the link & ‘expert’ info gang.
fascinating stuff and to think you can find readings like this on cycling tips. We are an Amazing bunch, us ‘Cycling Tribe’ :-)

Thanks for the link & ‘expert’ info gang.
fascinating stuff and to think you can find readings like this on cycling tips. We are an Amazing bunch, us ‘Cycling Tribe’ :-)

Some one doesnt read this blog!
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/blog-article/113937/No-room-to-move-br

Lets hope this isnt the end of all our good work!

Some one doesnt read this blog!
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/blog-article/113937/No-room-to-move-br

Lets hope this isnt the end of all our good work!

Some one doesnt read this blog!
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/blog-article/113937/No-room-to-move-br

Lets hope this isnt the end of all our good work!

Hey at least the O2 jumped out from the group into a lane of busy traffic…. A Prime Estate rider this morning in the 5.45am bunch thought the shared pathway was a better option to make his way to the front of the bunch! If you must be a dick at least take your chances with the traffic and leave the commuter riders, runners and dog walkers who use this shared pathway safe. What a disgrace.

Hey at least the O2 jumped out from the group into a lane of busy traffic…. A Prime Estate rider this morning in the 5.45am bunch thought the shared pathway was a better option to make his way to the front of the bunch! If you must be a dick at least take your chances with the traffic and leave the commuter riders, runners and dog walkers who use this shared pathway safe. What a disgrace.

Goes to show the same old attitude from the same old team. Everyone can be a pro, as long as you wear matching shoes and tracksuits, and make a hero out of yourself on Beach Road. Well done Teaks great for cycling, not !

Goes to show the same old attitude from the same old team. Everyone can be a pro, as long as you wear matching shoes and tracksuits, and make a hero out of yourself on Beach Road. Well done Teaks great for cycling, not !

Yes I have
Lots of business reading

Yes I have
Lots of business reading

Yes I have
Lots of business reading

I did my first NRR from the start today in the 6AM bunch. Was generally ok to be honest. Am going to film it I think.

I did my first NRR from the start today in the 6AM bunch. Was generally ok to be honest. Am going to film it I think.

I did my first NRR from the start today in the 6AM bunch. Was generally ok to be honest. Am going to film it I think.

I agree re: i-pods. I used to ride with one all the time, then after being diagnosed asthmatic I started enjoying hearing myself breathe! I used my i-pod a couple of times after that and actually found I rode far more aggressively than when I can hear everything! Without an i-pod, I am less likely to swear at people and more likely to interact with the world around me in a pleasant way. Sooo much better without it!

I agree re: i-pods. I used to ride with one all the time, then after being diagnosed asthmatic I started enjoying hearing myself breathe! I used my i-pod a couple of times after that and actually found I rode far more aggressively than when I can hear everything! Without an i-pod, I am less likely to swear at people and more likely to interact with the world around me in a pleasant way. Sooo much better without it!

I agree re: i-pods. I used to ride with one all the time, then after being diagnosed asthmatic I started enjoying hearing myself breathe! I used my i-pod a couple of times after that and actually found I rode far more aggressively than when I can hear everything! Without an i-pod, I am less likely to swear at people and more likely to interact with the world around me in a pleasant way. Sooo much better without it!

Great video, posted on Facebook by the Amy Gillett Foundation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LydEn_cJ-dM

Great video, posted on Facebook by the Amy Gillett Foundation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LydEn_cJ-dM

Great video, posted on Facebook by the Amy Gillett Foundation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LydEn_cJ-dM

Nice idea guys. This site was posted in the discussion thread of a horrifying article written damning cyclists… I’m sure you know the one I’m talking about.

Is there a similar site or discussion board to educate drivers?

Nice idea guys. This site was posted in the discussion thread of a horrifying article written damning cyclists… I’m sure you know the one I’m talking about.

Is there a similar site or discussion board to educate drivers?

Nice idea guys. This site was posted in the discussion thread of a horrifying article written damning cyclists… I’m sure you know the one I’m talking about.

Is there a similar site or discussion board to educate drivers?