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		<title>By: Dilettante</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/11/competition-bad-for-motivation/comment-page-1/#comment-7482</link>
		<dc:creator>Dilettante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.  That encapsulates the dilemma.  Also enjoyed the comparison of traditional classroom culture with &quot;new organisational&quot; culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  That encapsulates the dilemma.  Also enjoyed the comparison of traditional classroom culture with &#8220;new organisational&#8221; culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Coulson</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/11/competition-bad-for-motivation/comment-page-1/#comment-7467</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Coulson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more article that was just posted in recent days that you may be interested in - only a 3 minute read but powerful stuff - is found here... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2009/11/18/12sternberg_ep.h29.html?tkn=UUQFNFQdsEKeajFF%252F4FvWDvbT%252FnQzl28YtaK&amp;print=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2009/11/18/12...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Briefly overviews the problems of rewards in the classroom and the impact it has on teacher&#039;s performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more article that was just posted in recent days that you may be interested in &#8211; only a 3 minute read but powerful stuff &#8211; is found here&#8230; <a href="http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2009/11/18/12sternberg_ep.h29.html?tkn=UUQFNFQdsEKeajFF%252F4FvWDvbT%252FnQzl28YtaK&#038;print=1" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2009/11/18/12sternberg_ep.h29.html?tkn=UUQFNFQdsEKeajFF%252F4FvWDvbT%252FnQzl28YtaK&#038;print=1');" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2009/11/18/12.." onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2009/11/18/12..');" rel="nofollow">http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2009/11/18/12..</a>.</p>
<p>Briefly overviews the problems of rewards in the classroom and the impact it has on teacher&#39;s performance.</p>
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		<title>By: MtbSkillsCoachPat</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtbSkillsCoachPat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post Justin &amp; Wade.&lt;br&gt;I loved &#039;Rewards focus individuals on performance, rather than mastery&#039; &lt;br&gt;It has certainly cemented why I do what I do, it&#039;s about Mastery. &lt;br&gt;Thanks I love those light globe moments.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My grandmother [The great LiL Ruffle from Adelaide] is still riding at 85yrs old after a long long racing career and still loves everyday she goes out on the bike. Some of her old pals &#039;Gave up Racing&#039; and quit riding altogether and everyone of them has rued their decision. NB, Lil rode and finished the 100km Adelaide Amy Gillet ride on a hot, windy, hilly course a few weeks back. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have always been intrigued in the many disciplines of bike racing that I have competed in, by those who gave up riding when they stopped racing. I cant imagine life without riding and taking the time to enjoy the sunrise &amp; sunsets as I wizz along or stop at a favorite view point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pedal on Brothers &amp; Sisters</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post Justin &#038; Wade.<br />I loved &#39;Rewards focus individuals on performance, rather than mastery&#39; <br />It has certainly cemented why I do what I do, it&#39;s about Mastery. <br />Thanks I love those light globe moments.</p>
<p>My grandmother [The great LiL Ruffle from Adelaide] is still riding at 85yrs old after a long long racing career and still loves everyday she goes out on the bike. Some of her old pals &#39;Gave up Racing&#39; and quit riding altogether and everyone of them has rued their decision. NB, Lil rode and finished the 100km Adelaide Amy Gillet ride on a hot, windy, hilly course a few weeks back. </p>
<p>I have always been intrigued in the many disciplines of bike racing that I have competed in, by those who gave up riding when they stopped racing. I cant imagine life without riding and taking the time to enjoy the sunrise &#038; sunsets as I wizz along or stop at a favorite view point.</p>
<p>Pedal on Brothers &#038; Sisters</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Edge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Edge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>— Great post, I love this quote, &quot;Those who love cycling will foster that love by being focused on what they love, and ignoring the rewards. And those who are only doing it for the rewards… enjoy them… while the rest of us enjoy the view from the top of our early morning ride in the hills.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>— Great post, I love this quote, &#8220;Those who love cycling will foster that love by being focused on what they love, and ignoring the rewards. And those who are only doing it for the rewards… enjoy them… while the rest of us enjoy the view from the top of our early morning ride in the hills.&#8221;</p>
<p>Awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Dilettante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dilettante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - it is dry :) - it&#039;s been handy for helping some clients look beyond the obvious to find better solutions to performance issues.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;+1 on Kohn&#039;s stuff - good for organisational development and parenting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; it is dry :) &#8211; it&#39;s been handy for helping some clients look beyond the obvious to find better solutions to performance issues.  </p>
<p>+1 on Kohn&#39;s stuff &#8211; good for organisational development and parenting!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Coulson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Coulson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dilettante.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve read Freakonomics and enjoyed it. The other one sounds rather hard to get through :).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I HIGHLY recommend &quot;Punished by Rewards&quot; by Alfie Kohn. A little old now, but very useful for the office, the classroom, and the home. He also wrote a book called &quot;No Contest&quot; which is good, although it doesn&#039;t deal much with sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dilettante.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve read Freakonomics and enjoyed it. The other one sounds rather hard to get through :).</p>
<p>I HIGHLY recommend &#8220;Punished by Rewards&#8221; by Alfie Kohn. A little old now, but very useful for the office, the classroom, and the home. He also wrote a book called &#8220;No Contest&#8221; which is good, although it doesn&#39;t deal much with sport.</p>
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		<title>By: Dilettante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dilettante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin - enjoyed the article.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you&#039;re interested in the unintended effects of carrots and sticks in public policy and other areas, a couple of references - one populist, one practical:  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.  Levitt and Dubner&#039;s &quot;Freakonomics&quot; - entertaining and accessible exploration of behavioural economics, and &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.  On a dryer but more practical note, Rummler and Brache&#039;s &quot;Improving Performance: How to Manage the White Space in the Organization Chart&quot; - good intro to assessing organisational behaviour in terms of a balance of consequences.  The OHS case you cite is a classic example of rewarding inappropriate behaviour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin &#8211; enjoyed the article.  </p>
<p>If you&#39;re interested in the unintended effects of carrots and sticks in public policy and other areas, a couple of references &#8211; one populist, one practical:  </p>
<p>1.  Levitt and Dubner&#39;s &#8220;Freakonomics&#8221; &#8211; entertaining and accessible exploration of behavioural economics, and </p>
<p>2.  On a dryer but more practical note, Rummler and Brache&#39;s &#8220;Improving Performance: How to Manage the White Space in the Organization Chart&#8221; &#8211; good intro to assessing organisational behaviour in terms of a balance of consequences.  The OHS case you cite is a classic example of rewarding inappropriate behaviour.</p>
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		<title>By: Philthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wade, I&#039;d strongly recommend plenty of track time with friendly tuition prior to racing. You are welcome to come down to a the Sunday Morning development sessions at DISC 0800-1100 which focus on skills, tactics and technique.  I&#039;ve seen some strong riders creating carnage on the track because they&#039;ve started racing without having bothered to master or even learn many of the fundamentals of track etiquette and skills. You&#039;ll enjoy the racing more when you know what you&#039;re doing too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wade, I&#39;d strongly recommend plenty of track time with friendly tuition prior to racing. You are welcome to come down to a the Sunday Morning development sessions at DISC 0800-1100 which focus on skills, tactics and technique.  I&#39;ve seen some strong riders creating carnage on the track because they&#39;ve started racing without having bothered to master or even learn many of the fundamentals of track etiquette and skills. You&#39;ll enjoy the racing more when you know what you&#39;re doing too.</p>
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		<title>By: James, Motivational Speaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>James, Motivational Speaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some great insight here. It explains a lot! Racing for the love of racing sounds a lot more healthy than doing it for the rewards. You can enjoy the rewards anyway, you just have to not let them go to your head.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for sharing :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some great insight here. It explains a lot! Racing for the love of racing sounds a lot more healthy than doing it for the rewards. You can enjoy the rewards anyway, you just have to not let them go to your head.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing :)</p>
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		<title>By: PsychyCyclist</title>
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		<dc:creator>PsychyCyclist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignore the name there too btw. I have this profile thing I was going to play with and now I can&#039;t delete it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignore the name there too btw. I have this profile thing I was going to play with and now I can&#39;t delete it.</p>
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		<title>By: PsychyCyclist</title>
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		<dc:creator>PsychyCyclist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the article... &lt;a href=&quot;http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/GAO-OSHA-200910.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publ...&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s a very long and tedious article that was prepared for the US government in an attempt to improve the OHS audit process. You&#039;ll find information on this specific issue summarised in the second paragraph on pg 2 and pages 11-17 contain more detailed information about this. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While I&#039;m quite bored by the content, what is interesting to me is how our entire system of health and safety, and indeed our entire society, is built upon a structure of carrots and sticks. We seem to believe that people are not capable of self-governance, motivation, and optimal performance unless we bribe or threaten. And our sporting activities are no different. Sure, we live in a society now where sportsmen and women are paid to compete at the highest level. But the point here is that too many of our structures move the focus away from performance and towards reward, whether in OHS or on the bike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#39;s the article&#8230; <a href="http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/GAO-OSHA-200910.pdf" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/GAO-OSHA-200910.pdf');" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publ.." onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publ..');" rel="nofollow">http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publ..</a>.. </p>
<p>It&#39;s a very long and tedious article that was prepared for the US government in an attempt to improve the OHS audit process. You&#39;ll find information on this specific issue summarised in the second paragraph on pg 2 and pages 11-17 contain more detailed information about this. </p>
<p>While I&#39;m quite bored by the content, what is interesting to me is how our entire system of health and safety, and indeed our entire society, is built upon a structure of carrots and sticks. We seem to believe that people are not capable of self-governance, motivation, and optimal performance unless we bribe or threaten. And our sporting activities are no different. Sure, we live in a society now where sportsmen and women are paid to compete at the highest level. But the point here is that too many of our structures move the focus away from performance and towards reward, whether in OHS or on the bike.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Justin, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great post.  The recetn article you mentioned in a reply re. reward programs tied to OHS measures, would you be able to point me in  the direction of that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Justin, </p>
<p>Great post.  The recetn article you mentioned in a reply re. reward programs tied to OHS measures, would you be able to point me in  the direction of that?</p>
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