Patron Of The Peloton

February 1, 2010 · Comments

Patron of the Peloton – My friend Brad coined this term and it’s come up in discussion a few times over the recent weeks.  The “patron of the peloton” (POTP) essentially refers to the figurehead of any bunch ride.  He’s not necessarily the best rider, but he is the most respected and the unspoken leader.  He’s the guy who shouts “piss stop!” and everyone stops.  He is the guy who is able to say “single up!” and everyone singles up.   Nearly every bunch includes one rider like this and it’s always handy to know who this person is.

Why is this important to know?   It’s especially significant when you’re new to a bunch ride.  No matter how good a rider you are, when you join a bunch ride for the first time you should take note of who the POTP is, sit back, and follow.   When you’re on someone else’s bunch ride it’s not the time to flex your muscle and show your stuff.   This is one of those pieces of cycling etiquette that is never explicitly stated, but mess it up and you won’t be invited back.

I was reminded of this when we were riding in Adelaide last week.  A few other locals had generously taken us out on some rides around Adelaide Hills.   A gentleman named Mick was clearly the one who was leading the ride.  It wasn’t an egotistical alpha male type of thing.  He was simply the guy who took charge, led us for a cruise around his backyard, told us about the area and set a moderate tempo.  This was not the time or the place for any of us to be ramping up the pace, riding off the front, or pushing for alternate routes.  Unfortunately one of the less experienced guest riders wasn’t familiar with this etiquette and decided to break away at one point.  Not so cool – especially when there were intersections everywhere and we could have been turning at any one of them.  This just causes problems and undue stress for the group leader and subtly shows disrespect (even though I’m sure that’s not how it was intended).   If you get a puncture, crash, or take a wrong turn, the POTP will ultimately be the person looking out for you and organizing your rescue.

Moral of the story: If it’s not your ride, stay with those whose ride it is.

Of course etiquette, respect, and common courtesy get thrown out the window in the Melbourne bunch rides.   Time after time I’ve seen many people from weekend warriors to Olympic champions try to lead and talk some sense into the group rides with no success.  I genuinely think this is a problem without a solution.

  • Cam
    "Etiquette, respect, and common courtesy on a melbourne bunch ride" - what a vision you have CT !
    Unfortunately it does sometimes seem a bit like a lost cause.
    How about a 6.01am north road ?

    btw - all these photos are really making me miss those great bunch rides on quiet roads we were spoiled with back in adelaide a couple of weeks ago ... having to work sucks !
  • gm
    try riding out to kinglake, strathewen, arthurs creek etc. the roads are quiet and more picturestque. some nice climbs as well.
  • Jack D
    Love to GM, every weekend that's the goal. Haven't worked out how I can do the hills and still get to my desk in Collins Street by 8am though...
  • brycerider
    +1 on some of the melbourne rides - its like being the pied piper sometimes - start off with a mate out for a two up base session - look back and there is twenty klingons that have silently and stealthily attached themselves to your wheel.

    What is even more amusing are the lurkers (often seen near mordi) who dawdle along waiting for a wheel to suck back to St Kilda - what is with that thinking?
  • Jack D
    Just a Q, is it ok to suck a wheel (without being a pest or dogging them) if you thank them at the end? Assuming the front guys are not working too hard into a headwind or you're refusing to pull a turn.

    One more, what's with the Freedie boys' pockets in the pic? Look like the guys have packed their own lunch, I thought the weather in Radelaide was great for the TDU?
  • bradenm
    Say to whoever it is "Hey, mind if I sit in?" if yes, offer to take some turns. If no, then you won't need to offer; just respect their wishes. Definitely a good idea to thank them when you turn off.
  • Brad coined the term 'Patron of the Peloton'

    Was he around in the days of Merkcx, Hinault et al then (and way earlier than them)? Because they were known as patrons....('Capo' when in Italy)
  • BJ
    I think CT meant `Brad Uses the Term Patron of the Peleton'... But thanks for being the `policeman of the post'
  • Guy C
    Not a case of being a policeman is it, it's a case of cycling history being important on a cycling site. Now if that's what was meant it's very different from 'coined the term'. That's all I'm saying...
  • toneredd
    All ways found Brad.D. a very good POTP.
  • Matt
    What's with the two abreast on a single lane, double lined road in the photo?
  • mattlucas
    Country Road. If you ride single file here with the blind corner coming up, you are asking for trouble. Best make the car wait for 10secs to ensure everybody's safety
  • bradjdavies
    It's Adelaide - no cars
  • Chris Lee
    Not to say you can't roll some unknown bunch hubbards at the BP sprint at the end of their ride, be sure to collect your prize money after.
  • Thanks Wade. Done.
    And Jack, I agree with your thoughts on Etiquette when joining a bunch.
  • Bunch Pleb
    2 words. Alan Gill.... is THE PATRON in Adelaide.

    Legend of the sport, and he is his bunches 'boss' still at over 50 years of age. The man is a beast, and still manages to smash all the young uns up the nortin summit, that are stupid enough to atttack the 'old man' on his bunch ride! This bloke would well be worth contacting for a Cycling Tips interview, his bike racing story/history would be an awesome read. I believe he was a national road race champion in 1980's.
  • bradjdavies
    No doubt Alan Gill is a legend. And when Gilly's not there it's surely Kristin Lewis aka `Krusty'. He controls the Saturday smash down the beach in Adelaide... And I'm from Melbourne....
  • MtbSkillsCoachPat
    Yep, I will second the motion. Gilly is an absolute treasure and hell of a nice bloke.
    He stands eye 2 eye with my cycling grandmother [LiL Ruffle] who still thinks Gilly is a young fella ;-) !
  • Jack Thomas
    Spot on Wade, maybe if this gets general publication there would be less of it. Nicely put without being a put down.

    I am part of a bunch that has done a fair bit of training on various Melbourne roads over the past few years. We are not racers, and at least 20% could be termed inexperienced riders, but we are training with a big annual goal so we are not a cafe racing bunch of tossers (at least we don't think so).

    As a result, safety and etiquette is big. The bunch are reminded to always wear their training kit so we're clearly identifiable as the one bunch, etc. The speed is always pared back to allow eveyone to hang on safely, and the POTP (sometimes there are two) outlines the rules before and during the ride (speed, rolling turns of x minutes, single, no ipods, etc.). There are plenty of verbal and hand signal warnings of lights/slowing, etc. and barked instructions and scowls if anyone in the bunch hots up too much and heads off up the road, or lets a wheel go, etc. We're always happy to let quicker riders and other bunches get a wave through every time. Any rider who asks politely, follows the rotations, speed, etc. is welcomed each time. As a result the crashes and near misses have been very low.

    Unfortunately we need to do weekday mornings on Beach Road due to everyone's work commitments and the number of muppets who drop into the bunch is astounding.

    Usually it is a frothing mouthed commuter, sometimes it is just Cafe Racer with his new kit and new bike, who gets overtaken easily then screams his guts out redlining to hang on, jumping back in about halfway down the peleton. Obviously it's when the pace is increasing, but not enough to drop the less experienced riders in the back, so Muppet then manages to claw his way back to the front via a rolling turn and again cuts back in about halfway down. As a result the bunch speed jumps up and down, with riders nearly going down each time.

    After a couple of times doing this the frothing Muppet gets a bake from the POTP, but never seems to notice. We've resorted to one POTP becoming a guard dog at the back and trying to force these muppets out, but why should you have to?

    I'd defintitely add something here about riders' etiquette in joining a bunch (as opposed to forcing your way in...).
  • JC
    Thanks for that Jack. When did they let you out of jail?
  • Jack Thomas
    Only got a community-based order thanks JC. Osama's my POTP as if you didn't know.
  • armon
    Its also polite to say hello, give your name and ask if you can come along. It is also worthwhile asking if they are doing any thing special so you don't get caught out. And finally carry your own pump/CO2 cylinders/tubes and bidons...POTP is also know a Bunch Captain
  • kylieonwheels
    Yeah I was going to ask what was the difference between POTP and the Captain, maybe that's a Sydney thing, Armon.
  • bradjdavies
    Funny you mention that. As it happened said rider in Wade's article punctured and it was a hung jury when it came to a decision about whether to stop or not, given clear breach of bunch code of ethics. In the end we stopped, albeit reluctantly....
  • Bunch Ride Finder
    Wade great article, do you mind if I place a 'snipit' of this article on www.bunchridefinder.com. au with a link here for the full story?
  • Hey Steve, no problems. I'm sure it'll resonate with your readers as well.

    For those of you who haven't seen it, www.bunchridefinder.com.au is a great resource to find out about local rides all over Australia.
  • It's 'kindof' like at primary school:
    If you wanted to join in a game of 'Bob-down Tiggy' or 'Cockey Laura' you would have to ask:

    "Who's the boss of this game?"

    and ask them.
  • Cockey Laura? I'll have to add that one on my "list of Aussie lingo to learn"
  • Is it me or is that photo a bit blurry?

    I can definately relate to the to the topic on my saturday morning rides
  • yeah, sorry about the photo. If you squint really hard it becomes much clearer.

    Just added a new one
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