Crash Prevention

Great tips CT!

I’d never heard to deflate my tyres a little in the wet.

I came off on a corner just over a month back and ended up having my left elbow stitched up. But in my case it was none of the above…

Post-crash analysis revealed it was possibly a slow leak and my front tyre was under-inflated as I went through a corner. Tyre rolled around the rim, front wheel slid out, and the gravel grated my left side like cheese.

That pic looks like a collarbone snap in the making. Good advice is to always hold onto the handlebars. You’re going to get road rash anyway but at least you can save the hassle of broken bones.

Remembering that as you’re going down is another matter!

That pic looks like a collarbone snap in the making. Good advice is to always hold onto the handlebars. You’re going to get road rash anyway but at least you can save the hassle of broken bones.

Remembering that as you’re going down is another matter!

oh… and um… FIRST! Yeeha.

Totally had number 3 happen to me today… Got distracted by something right before a turn, realized I was was going too fast and hit the breaks and before I knew it I was sliding across the road. Fun times :P luckily none of my buddies were with me or else I would’ve never lived my idiotic mind lapse down

I was at the Oceania Sprint Distance Triathlon Champs last month and an Australian female athlete (who shall remain nameless) asked for a hand because she was having trouble pumping her tubulars up to 150PSI! Even though conditions were dry I told her that was a recipe for disaster for a 50kg athlete and that she should be running no more than 100PSI.

That would make point 7. Lack or lapse in concentration. By not concentrating while in a pack you might not realise that you are in the wrong position/ what’s coming up ahead. All of a sudden you find yourself where you don’t want to be and cannot do anything about it.

I have had a few of these but luckily they didn’t result in a crash. Hopefully I have learnt my lesson.

Within a week…

120psi to sub 90psi descending Deans Marsh Saturday. No crossing wheels or cutting in on corners.

Yep, solid advice, I scored a broken rib in a fall but a broken collarbone would have been much worse of i had let go of the bars.

It’s a hard instinct to break

I’m curious about that one… my tubs (Vredestein Fortezza Tri Comp) have a minimum of 130 and a max somewhere near 200psi I think. I would have thought that 150 was pretty standard. Anyone care to clarify?

Have to endorse this one. Somehow the “hang onto the bars” reflex kicked in during a fairly serious clash with a car last year, I landed on the meaty parts of my shoulder and arm. Some skin off but I reckon it would have been a collarbone and/or arm and/or wrist otherwise.

Have to endorse this one. Somehow the “hang onto the bars” reflex kicked in during a fairly serious clash with a car last year, I landed on the meaty parts of my shoulder and arm. Some skin off but I reckon it would have been a collarbone and/or arm and/or wrist otherwise.

Have to endorse this one. Somehow the “hang onto the bars” reflex kicked in during a fairly serious clash with a car last year, I landed on the meaty parts of my shoulder and arm. Some skin off but I reckon it would have been a collarbone and/or arm and/or wrist otherwise.

Great post CT. Another point worth mentioning is just knowing when to pull out (or not start a race). I showed up to the st kilda crits 2 weeks ago and the track was soaked from a recent shower. I did a lap beforehand and decided it just wasn’t worth the risk…sure enough there were about 4 crashes in B, 2 in D, 1 big one I saw in womens B.

Sometimes it’s just not worth the risk!

Can you get the Commissaire to read this post to the bunch before the SKCC Crits each week please?

Point 7 should be – Pay attention to what is happening in front of you. Stop looking at the person beside you when you’re talking to them. Keep your hands on the handlebars as much as you can and don’t gesticulate with your hands like you Marcel Marceau, save it for the coffee shop.

Point 7 should be – Pay attention to what is happening in front of you. Stop looking at the person beside you when you’re talking to them. Keep your hands on the handlebars as much as you can and don’t gesticulate with your hands like you Marcel Marceau, save it for the coffee shop.

i’ve never snapped my collarbone, my shoulder prefers to dislocate instead. having been through a shoulder reco, i seem to be able to instinctively keep it tucked in now, rather than extend my arm when falling.

just to add to TC’s tip #3 – the effect of braking on the bike’s attitude is really important. while you should use the brakes to wash off all your speed before turning in, you shouldn’t just “spring release” them, as this will upset the front end – you should progressively release them. as CT mentioned, you can get away with (lightly) trailing the rear brake for longer than the front. conventional wisdom is to never brake in a turn, but on some downhill corners you may need to control your speed. the rear tyre isn’t taking as much of the steering force as the front, so it will normally have some surplus grip and you can more easily save a rear wheel slide.

i’ve never snapped my collarbone, my shoulder prefers to dislocate instead. having been through a shoulder reco, i seem to be able to instinctively keep it tucked in now, rather than extend my arm when falling.

just to add to TC’s tip #3 – the effect of braking on the bike’s attitude is really important. while you should use the brakes to wash off all your speed before turning in, you shouldn’t just “spring release” them, as this will upset the front end – you should progressively release them. as CT mentioned, you can get away with (lightly) trailing the rear brake for longer than the front. conventional wisdom is to never brake in a turn, but on some downhill corners you may need to control your speed. the rear tyre isn’t taking as much of the steering force as the front, so it will normally have some surplus grip and you can more easily save a rear wheel slide.

Hi Wade,
I agree with your article however am a bit unsure about point 6.
On wet roads I change my riding approach quite a lot…. I do not lay the bike over anywhere near as much into a corner, I keep as large a cornering radius as possible and keep WELL clear of white lines. Further, in a peloton situation I keep to the slight left or right of the wheel in front so as not to have spray straight up in my face.
Brenton

Hi Wade,
I agree with your article however am a bit unsure about point 6.
On wet roads I change my riding approach quite a lot…. I do not lay the bike over anywhere near as much into a corner, I keep as large a cornering radius as possible and keep WELL clear of white lines. Further, in a peloton situation I keep to the slight left or right of the wheel in front so as not to have spray straight up in my face.
Brenton

Hi Wade,
I agree with your article however am a bit unsure about point 6.
On wet roads I change my riding approach quite a lot…. I do not lay the bike over anywhere near as much into a corner, I keep as large a cornering radius as possible and keep WELL clear of white lines. Further, in a peloton situation I keep to the slight left or right of the wheel in front so as not to have spray straight up in my face.
Brenton

That’s far too much pressure in my opinion. I’ve never ridden a Vredestein but I’m confident that is simply far too much particularly if you’re not too heavy. Let’s assume you weigh in at about 75Kg. I would have thought 110PSI is going to be fairly on the mark (give or take a few PSI).

There will never be a rule of thumb or “standard” per se. Different tyres run better at different pressures. Also, conditions will be relevant too. The point about wet conditions is case in point.

Deflating tyres slightly in the wet (& cold) is a reasonably common motorcycling practice (is with me at least). It allows a slightly larger contact patch and allows more heat into the tyre through slightly higher deformation of the tyre’s carcass.

When cycling, I typically will run 80-90 psi on the front in the wet or cold.

The rear tyre is not so critical due to weight transfer towards the front when cornering and braking.

One other major contributor to crashes in all grades this year at a well known Melbourne Crit circuit is riders pedalling at speed through corners. For some reason no one ever wants to admit that this is what caused them to crash (embarrassment?) and we often hear stories of wheels spontaneously disintegrating, but the reality is that when the speed ramps up and people are trying to hang on, down goes the pedal and up and over goes the rider. The wheels are destroyed as a result of the high-side.

Not sure if you were going to reference this in your next article, Wade, but there’s a good article here on optimum tire pressure. http://www.bikequarterly.com/images/TireDrop.pdf

No. 2 happened to me late last year in a bunch just after South Road, some muppet jumped up and out to sprint and took down the guys 3-4 ahead. Back where I was it was carnage. Could have been avoided by any of the above…

I was always told to look where you want to go, so if you don’t want to go down don’t look there..

No. 2 happened to me late last year in a bunch just after South Road, some muppet jumped up and out to sprint and took down the guys 3-4 ahead. Back where I was it was carnage. Could have been avoided by any of the above…

I was always told to look where you want to go, so if you don’t want to go down don’t look there..

No. 2 happened to me late last year in a bunch just after South Road, some muppet jumped up and out to sprint and took down the guys 3-4 ahead. Back where I was it was carnage. Could have been avoided by any of the above…

I was always told to look where you want to go, so if you don’t want to go down don’t look there..

There’s a big difference whether you are talking clinchers or tubulars isn’t there? For clinchers yes i’d say that’s too much but for tubulars it sounds reasonble.

There’s a big difference whether you are talking clinchers or tubulars isn’t there? For clinchers yes i’d say that’s too much but for tubulars it sounds reasonble.

My two cents worth: Keep the bike beneath you. At the damp crit mentioned above I got a fun two wheel slide going out of turn two (which I later discovered was caused by a slowly deflating rear tyre) but kept it up by being loose on the bike while it bucked a little and being over the bike rather than inside it. It’s not the kind of thing you can conciously act on at the time so you need to practice it when you’re NOT crashing so that it becomes a reflex. Riding MTB and especially CX will give you a good feel for how a bike behaves when it gets sliding and you might be surprised by what you can get away with.

A Twist of the Wrist by Kieth Code should be mandatory reading

Nearly had this happen today in my morning bunch ride. Heading down a short but fast descent with a tight turn halfway down, some other riders were parked on the side of the road. This caused the whole bunch (40+ riders?) to grab brakes due to the unexpected riders. Luckily no-one came down, but there was lots of cursing going on and strong scent of burnt rubber/carbon…

Seen this before. While the concept is interesting, the numbers are rubbish. At a total weight of 80 kg (bike, bidons, rider etc) I should be running 70 psi in the front and 110 psi in the rear with 23 mm tyres, according to the chart. That’s well into pinch flat territory on the front. I’d suggest the authors’ have extrapolated too far and assumed a linear relationship that doesn’t exist.

For the record, I don’t subscribe to the “pump em up tight” theory either. On a dry day I run clinchers no more than 100/105 psi (front /rear).

One thing I always try to do when riding in a bunch is to sit just off to one side of the wheel in front (it usually depends on the wind as to which side). I’m still behind the wheel but by being on one side or the other I’ve already chosen my escape path in the event of an incident up ahead; no wasted moments of indecision.
I’ve seen too many newbies trying to hold their line directly behind the wheel in front, then smack into it when the pack slows; they don’t want to be yelled at for not holding their line and panic.

Ahh. Had a massive crash on the road 2 years ago. Big night boozing the night before the SKCC club world champs.. got through the race then came down on a straight piece of road on the way to Cafe Racer.. in front of the whole club to see.. Highly embarrassing. Had to eat my post race bombaloni with torn knicks, bleeding and a chunk missing from my rear region.

O2 dominating Total Rush? Look out for Stu Hill to throw a spanner in the works. Oldskool hardman from way back. His team will be too busy keeping their knee high socks up.. but he’s on another level.

I was advised, when track racing as a kid, that I should only crash when going fast as i will only get rash / grazes. Going slowly will break bones. Luckily, I have managed this each time I have come off. My teacher would be proud.

i just realised that no one’s posted the most obvious one of all – ride near the front of the bunch, where there are less people to fall in front of you.

You make a good point, and I’ve had a bit more of a think about this article. I’m not sure that they would have extrapolated that far, as I would have thought ~80 kg would be around where they had tested?

However, as you imply, they err by ignoring that even though equality in tire drop can be achieved by pumping the two tires up differently, the difference in pressure and force play a role in the elasticity of the tire. I imagine that bumps in the road would not be an issue per se, as vertical motion would cause a force proportional to the borne weight, and both back and front tires would experience a similar deformation. I think that the author ignored situations when weight distribution changes. When braking, almost 100% could be borne on just the front tire. I can’t work it out right now, but when cornering, I assume a similar redistribution occurs. I guess that’s when pinch flats would be more likely.

This weekend should be a goodie, expect a few hooks thrown on the final lap.

Good point about the white lines. They’re like ice when wet.

Agreed. The slow crashes that I’ve had have hurt much more than the fast ones!

My Fortezza Tri Comps have min 120 psi – max 175 psi references on the tyre wall.
At at 68 kgs the advice to me was run 120 psi dry and 100-110 psi depending upon how wet, from a real Begian hardman friend of mine who put me onto them a few years ago
For me at those levels they have been fantastic tyres, great cornering traction wet & dry, rolling resistance negligible, very comfortable and absolutely brilliant durability, again my experience.
Suggest you have a look a some of CT’s & velonews articles on tyre pressure, rolling resistance and weight. All make sense against the seemingly logical start point of “harder must be better” Yes went to that class early.
Thinking now seems to be litle bit less pressure tyre can give just enough not to pick up sliver of stone, flint or glass, whilst also under corner pressure it keeps optimal tread contact on the road, reducing chances of wash out.

Can anybody race the SKCC crits this weekend or do you have to be a SKCC member?

Different width tyres should run at different pressures in relation to your weight as well, but might be stealing from an upcoming post.

I reckon you’ve nailed it with the distribution of weight issue. What they propose may work on a dead flat road, but as soon as you throw in a few bumps, some descending/cornering/braking/etc their 40/60 rule is invalidated very quickly.

With regards my comments on the extrapolation. I’m guessing that they didn’t actually test weight loads on pairs of wheels together, but rather just did a single wheel over a limited range of weights. Going back to an 80kg total weight; a 40/60 distribution gives a weight load on the front wheel of only 32 kg, right at the lower end of the displayed range, yet 48 kg on the back wheel is in the middle. If they were truly testing typical weight ranges over both wheels together I would expect the overall range to be much larger than they show. 60kg climbers on a 7 kg bikes are not that rare. I’m scared to thing how low the recommended psi for the front wheel would be for a fit woman racer.

I reckon you’ve nailed it with the distribution of weight issue. What they propose may work on a dead flat road, but as soon as you throw in a few bumps, some descending/cornering/braking/etc their 40/60 rule is invalidated very quickly.

With regards my comments on the extrapolation. I’m guessing that they didn’t actually test weight loads on pairs of wheels together, but rather just did a single wheel over a limited range of weights. Going back to an 80kg total weight; a 40/60 distribution gives a weight load on the front wheel of only 32 kg, right at the lower end of the displayed range, yet 48 kg on the back wheel is in the middle. If they were truly testing typical weight ranges over both wheels together I would expect the overall range to be much larger than they show. 60kg climbers on a 7 kg bikes are not that rare. I’m scared to thing how low the recommended psi for the front wheel would be for a fit woman racer.

Too true, get your sports bike out and do a superbike school, you won’t be scared to brake in corners and will know all about counter steering and two wheel control.

Must be a member

While on the topic of cornering – DON’T PEDAL while leaning deeply into the corner!!!!!

Race at Glenvale instead – need to be a CA member!!

Ride off the front of the bunch. WWJ(ens)D?

It has been done many many times in test, 12% drop is the optimum, this varies with weight but also suppleness of the tyre.
The question that varies, of course, is what is Optimim for a test versus a riders needs.
12% gives the best grip (lateral and linier) but may have an unacceptable level of drag.
Since TryAthletes (especially 50kg ones) are not going to be spinning the back wheel in power, and are unlikely to hit many corners (the 180 the do do is going to be taken at 21kph or 22 kph….) but drag may be the difference between 42 kph and 43kph and the time spent at that speed means there is more value in the loss of lateral grip.

That said at 90 kg I still only put 160 psi in my (21mm) Tubs, but my (23mm) clinchers get 110-140psi depending on the day

maybe exaggerating the crash in women’s B? only one rider that took herself out and walked away with intact bike… pretty good result given the potential.

Maybe a tip to sit in the top quarter of the field during dicey conditions?

Rider Y is just about to be boxed in against the gutter and lose his wheel if Rider X can move up a little bit more. Probably a good idea for Rider Y to slowly drift across and get his front wheel just to the right (but still behind) the wheel in front (Rider Z?) and protect his spot…

As for tyre pressures, I rarely put more than 105psi in (clinchers). I’m no lightweight, but there’s very little deflection of the sidewall at that pressure anyway so there’s not much benefit from going harder.

Exactly right, even worse are when they paint over white lines with black – found out the hard way last weekend in the wet – http://tarra.cc/2011/03/the-wet-ride-when-to-stay-in-bed/

Race cyclocross in the off-season… feel the back wheel going out and how to recover it, learn how to relax on the bars instead of death-gripping them, get comfortable riding through gravel and avoiding objects at speed. Learn yours and the bike’s limits. All in the context of a soft muddy landing when you screw up. Invaluable skills to know and they transfer over well to the road.

or ride handicap at trentham with the vets instead,
coburg have their champs on saturday morning but it is open to all riders (you just can’t be the coburg champ if not a member)

how is this possible??? lets say they’re are 40 riders in a race, all taking your sage advice. 1/4 would mean that there would be 10 riders battling for the front with the other 30 battling for their place, sounds like a shit fight to me.
some advice is experience, common sense, experience, communication in the bunch and some more experience.
we all train for different aspects for racing, but most don’t train in inclement conditions.
we as riders in racers need to work together in races to keep it safe for all, and i know myself i have been guilty of all the sins mentioned and more over my career.

I still think for tubies it’s sounding like a bit too much however I agree nonetheless.

One of my pet hates. When people grab the anchors as an accident develops in front of them. Often if you subtly ease of on the gas, the accident two or three riders in front will clear itself. The momentum in the fall often means you have more time than you think to find a safe line through.
It surprising if you stay calm how many near misses you have if you make sensible choices at the moment of truth.

Far too many guys grab the anchors and try to pull up. Not everyone has that reaction time it’s elastic in reverse and often causes secondary accidents.

Stay calm and look to roll through the gap, a few seconds later you can U turn to check on your mates.
Second point – when training. Stop when it’s safe and check on your mates. Chances are they’ll need your help. Far too often people pretend it’s not their responsibility just to make the cut on a training ride.

Not good Karma lads.

slightly unnecessary sarcasm. We have a field of about 20 and it’s the same 5 up the front the whole time, the dogfight is always behind these people as nobody else wants to take a turn at the front.

How is that possible?

That is racing in a nutshell. Fighting, fighting, fighting for position. Lose concentration for a moment and you’ve lost your place.

It sure is a shitfight, but a beautiful one nonetheless.

What the figurine photo doesn’t show is Rider Z, “Half Turn” Heath Jackson (of Bike Force fame), off the front of the bunch about to cross the finish line.

The photo also doesn’t show the fact that Rider X (Total Rush) just took 4 laps out because he wanted to tighten up the ratchet on his left shoe, nor the fact that Rider Y (O2 Networks) is about to be given a five race ban for wearing the ugliest helmets in the peloton.

nah, wasn’t been sarcastic just adding my 2 cents worth.

your right its not possible, using the imaginary numbers i used 30 into 10 wont work.
on a wet day i usually try to get a break off the front, usually you will only get a small group off but it will be chased by another group which will break the race into 3 and sometimes 4/5 groups. a committed group trying to stay away or a chase group will be more focused on the race than a group rolling along in a negative mood because of the weather thinking of better places that they could be (mmmm! coffee/warm car). also working your arse off also keeps your mind off the bad weather and creates a positive mood for the group your in.
disclaimer: doesn’t always work, but can’t hurt trying.

looks like rider Z (eventual winner) has 135.5psi in their front tyre and 146.8psi in their rear, rider O (last) only has 105psi in both and a slow leak.
goes to prove more psi is better and will prevent punctures and global warming…… (a picture tells a thousand stories and also doesn’t lie)

Oldskool Cleo Bach party boy don’t you mean?

Yeah, that’s him.. just won gold at the Emergency games & should keep that winning feeling going till Sunday:
http://staytruecycling.blogspot.com/2011/03/stu-takes-gold.html

Speaking of oldskool, you racing? Need some soldiers out there to go up against the multi million dollar PRO teams racing SKCC these days.

Oldskool soldier? UpDave? Give it to them!

I have to stick up for the authors to whom you do a serious disservice and misrepresentation. The article is about tyre drop, not about mass/force distribution, and the distribution numbers aren’t “rubbish”, they are suggestions cited from a source titled “Optimizing Bicycles for Carrying Heavy Loads”. “40/60″ isn’t stated as a “rule”, it’s just one example given. Did you just skim the text? Neither the opening abstract paragraph, nor the closing conclusion, say anything about distribution.

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The Pro’s have it down pat

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lenngwMo7k1qa1mybo1_500.jpg

How about the table and the legend for the figure! “Weight distribution: 45%/55%. Wheel loads 45kg/55kg”. Base on the table I assume that this example is for a randonneur bike. Distributions for a racing bike funnily enough are listed as 40%/60%. These are their stated assumptions of the article! I may have erred in describing them as a rule. that’s all. Forgive me, I was making a quick comment on an internet forum. Fixed it for you:

“…add some descending/cornering/braking/etc and tyre pressures set to achieve a 15% drop according to an estimated 40/60 weight distribution for a racing bicycle, become very sub-optimal, and dangerous, very quickly”.

The research may have been about tyre drop, but the article extrapolated into recommended tyre pressures based on wheel load. It even goes into detail about measuring wheel load for each wheel and thus, in effect, weight distribution. If you are going to accuse someone of skimming an article I suggest you read more than the abstract and conclusion yourself.

As for the numbers; I stated above (in less words), under constant, optimal conditions tyre pressures that provides a 15% drop may work. In a dynamic real world situation, they don’t. Hence, rubbish!

Where did you get your mini-peloton Wade?

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Ok me 94k’s (and dropping fast), Various Pinarellos, Specialized TT bike and a new MCipo!

Running Tubs,
Racing: Vittoria Corsa CX 120 psi dry road race, 11o psi dry crit, 90-100 wet. Conti Tubs just add about 5 psi to each value, they seem a bit more tuffer than the Vittoria and more resistant to cuts. TT’s everything 120 psi, even wet (usually out and back and not technical).
Training: (you serious?) take your mobile for calling the wife.

Track (nope but Tubs. Too many cowboys riding for sheep stations = lots of crashes/smashed collarbones) + I need to not miss work!

Running Clinchers
Racing: Michelin Pro Race 3′s running same psi’s as Vittoria Tubs above.
Training: Conti Gatorskins 80-90psi on crappy roads, 90-100psi on nicer roads.
If you got a bike that is compliant, go a bit more psi I guess, but my bikes a fairly stiff.

Baden Cooke once wrote in bike magazine (might of been Ride??) about the form finder loop, something along the lines of going for a 80k + thrash out with about 70psi and the slowest rubber you can find!! (pretty sure I’m way out but I’m a fan of that idea)

Train heavy. Race Light. Go for some good group rides.

If you’re by yourself on a big cross-windy day, go for a pacey session with your deep dish carbons and learn to use them in those conditions. If you just race ‘em and can’t handle them,…disaster/expensive.

Try not to be jittery in the bunch, show respect and get respected.

Don’t descend too far beyond your comfort zone.

Try races you haven’t done before and expand your experience.

If you know your gonna crash, try to relax as much as possible. Easier said.

CT, I know this is not related, but how should I pack pro? I tend to carry utter crap that I never use when I travel (work/training/racing). Some tips there would be good…. I’ve been travelling (for work) training/racing (when I can get to one, sometimes a 1200k trip from the outback) for the last year or so. I travel with a roadie/TT and Mtb, and Tacx Fortius. Would love to just carry round a little roller-case and look as cool as Brad Wiggins did back when he was at Cofidis and they (left or got booted out (can’t remember)) the TdF a few years back, and he just had this slick looking little case. So slick and pro!
I am working on it by trial an error at present.

Hope anything I said above helps people out, It has worked for me.

What’s a ‘Begian hardman’?… I know, I know… It’s a typo :-). Like your post.

Unlike the first photo, here’s a great shot of holding onto the bars until the very road rash end…
http://storage.canoe.ca/v1/dynamic_resize/?src=http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/2010/06/20/Mens_accident.jpg&size=640×427&quality=90

I was going to ask: did this scenario play out already this season?

Yep, i’ve had 2 crashes at 45km/h with only skin off (ok, it was a lot of skin) but broke a rib at not even 10km/h.

Hi Dave
When I race at SKCC I pedal through every corner and only see the need to coast when the pace is super fast but then its only a blip.. I think its experience for each rider when it comes to pedaling through a corner and knowing the boundaries of your bike and abillity (just because I pedal through the corners doesnt mean that every one should).
I see more potential for crashes with changing speed and /or line mid corner and this is exagerated buy overlap of wheels and tight jousting for position but the reason I pedal through as many corners as posible is to minimise the change of speed which really helps me keep my line.
Just talking from the other side of the fence on this topic.

I was away from blog world yesterday so am only reading this post now. Excellent post. Valuable info. Cheers.

I agree with you Troy, but unfortunately racing in a pack of 40+ riders at speed is not the time for anyone to be finding the limits of their ability with this. The reality is that we get a number of crashes caused by pedals clipping and these crashes are 100% avoidable: the only variable is if someone is pedaling or not when they are leaning into a corner. I don’t know how we solve this as riders will always pedal through corners and my comment is more of an observation than anything else.

The guy behind is about to get a fright!!!

Crank length plays a part. You try pedaling through with 175 or 177.5 and your asking for trouble. See pro and experienced A graders ride through all the time. One issue can be a blip in the surface that is higher and catches the pedal. Wheels do fail. Tubeless compatible rims can’t take 140 psi and there are many reports of them failing with tyre roll off and subsequent off. Some people fall off all the time. Others it’s rare. Have to ask the question when it does happen don’t you Dave? Can assume it was rider error.

Crank length plays a part. You try pedaling through with 175 or 177.5 and your asking for trouble. See pro and experienced A graders ride through all the time. One issue can be a blip in the surface that is higher and catches the pedal. Wheels do fail. Tubeless compatible rims can’t take 140 psi and there are many reports of them failing with tyre roll off and subsequent off. Some people fall off all the time. Others it’s rare. Have to ask the question when it does happen don’t you Dave? Can assume it was rider error.

It certainly is possible – you are assuming all riders want to be in the first 10. Some riders want nothing to do with the front end, that is until the finish line looms. There’s quite a few in the St Kilda crits, now I think of it…

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Keep off the painted road lines when wet.

clinchers or tubulars; its irrelevant. pressure should be decided by your weight and the conditions…
I raced the U23 nationals at 61.5kg and had 95/105 PSI in my front/rear tubulars. on a warm sunny day. no sluggish feeling, no squirming tyres on the descent down fisken rd, no problems.

racing on a WOODEN velodrome is an exception to this rule though… dugast silk tubulars roll along nicely with 240 in them

clinchers or tubulars; its irrelevant. pressure should be decided by your weight and the conditions…
I raced the U23 nationals at 61.5kg and had 95/105 PSI in my front/rear tubulars. on a warm sunny day. no sluggish feeling, no squirming tyres on the descent down fisken rd, no problems.

racing on a WOODEN velodrome is an exception to this rule though… dugast silk tubulars roll along nicely with 240 in them

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Thanks for the fashion tip re the helmets fellas, duly noted!… Management have been informed and the team is eagerly awaiting replacements to be provided!

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