Giro d’Italia Stage 11

 ToC has my attention at the moment – Its that 7am start which I love and the fact it is still wide open.

 ToC has my attention at the moment – Its that 7am start which I love and the fact it is still wide open.

 I’ve found the Giro a little unexciting. I don’t know how exciting it is to see Contador in the overall lead or not. I suppose I’m starting to warm to the excitement of the TdF …  But all that said, between Eurosport and SBS I shouldn’t complain. It is great to have so much cycling action to chose from no matter the hour of the day. 

Giro coming into mountains soon, reckon they will loose the whole peloton – Zoncolan just shy of 20% for last kilo!

This might liven things up on stage 14 (via Keeno!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv-j9c7dmzg&feature=player_embedded#at=17

(Please remove your helmets for the minutes silence. Brake levers still yellow god damn!)

 Giro not nearly as exciting as last year, and not just because of the absence of Australian riders at the top of every table.
I think they’ve tried to make it more exciting than last year with this ridiculously difficult course, and it’s backfired.
As for Contador…I’ve never met him so I have no reason – can someone tell me why I dislike him so much?

I *was* enjoying the pictures of the fantastic Giro podium girls.  Not so many of them today.  :(

 How do I get Quadrasaurs like the HTC boys?! The one legged squats with kettles ain’t cutting the moutard!

As for the Giro, CT, here’s where I am at. Got home from Propagandhi (boys from your neck of the woods, AB Prairie mofos rocking the Corner Hotel balls out), streamed Giro and listened to the ever high-larious S. Kelly as I worked on wireframing my new website.

So, does that answer your question?

Contador is getting a bit smirky for mine. And yes, it makes it all as boring as batsh!t.  Looking fwd to the Vuelta, maybe Bulldog can gurn a win this time eh!

Giro isn’t capturing my attention either.  I think it is some of all of the above.

WW death.  No Aussies in contention. Contador there… Not yet in the big bergs…

Giro isn’t capturing my attention either.  I think it is some of all of the above.

WW death.  No Aussies in contention. Contador there… Not yet in the big bergs…

giro is boring because the stages are boring so far, be patient.

giro is boring because the stages are boring so far, be patient.

Think that Weylandt’s death has definitely put a pall on this Giro (as it should).

However as to the racing, lets not bag it too much. We have seen a fantastic Contador stamp his authority on the race going up Mt Etna, the strade bianchi stage, the potential rise of a couple of future (FRENCH?!?) GC contenders (Le Mevel and Gadret) and two pretty good sprints.  

In terms of the GC, this Giro has only had two real days of action (the TTT and Mt. Etna).Plenty more to come – don’t give up on it.

And the last week looks to be so hard that anything could happen. Even the most dominant riders can have a jour sans – remember Armstrong (was it joux plane in 2000?).

I hope we will see someone like a Garzelli (even if he is a cheater) pick a hard day and make a crazy early attack – then see whether Bertie can respond… or something like that.

How good is Richie’s map o Tassie medallion!  Can’t tell in the B+W photo but I hope it’s Euro gold!

Is Cavendish meant to grab a banana split from the ice-cream truck?

No … I still don’t get it either.

The Giro and ToC at the same time seems bloody ridiculous to me.  I am struggling to keep up with both races at once. Mainly because I am sleep deprived. :)

One thing about the last 2 stages of the Giro, the break aways going close to getting the wins. Millar yesterday and Moreno  this morning. Love the guys that have a crack.

And David Harmon calling Daniel Moreno Riccardo Marino was funny when he realised. Then Sean kelly did it.

 why would anyone follow the TOC when the giro is on anyway? it is only the organisers that claim it is ‘the fourth grand tour’. in reality it is a training ride/holiday that takes place between shopping malls and huge car parks.

 i have no idea what it means but it is hilarious anyway

Have you all actually been watching the stages or just highlights?

Overall sure, the race is settled, but taken individually the stages are great.  De Clerq nearly getting pipped at the post, Contador and Gatto getting sneaky seconds before Etna, Contador & Rujano on Etna, David Millar attacking whenever he can, Weening trying to hold on to the Maglia Rosa as long as possible.  Brilliant.

It would be better to see some more Aussies up there (Cam Meyer has been talking up his chances of going for a stage win), but it is still great to watch.

 none of the difficult stages have taken place yet so to say it has backfired is a bit odd. and you don’t like contador because lance doesn’t like contador. the media do what lance says. or more to the point (eg paul and phil) what he pays them to say.

I concur Wade; this year’s Giro’s lost a bit of the spark we saw in 2010. WW’s death  certainly made it sombre for me.  That said, Contador’s attack on Etape 9 lifted the tempo.  A few flat stages makes it a bit boring (and the decision to go to bed early easier). Looking forward to the coming mountain stages.

 Fair enough. But to me, any cycling I get to watch is good cycling. The Americans probably don’t rate the Tour Down Under, but I love it.

Mike Tomolaris was telling me on Twitter that the Americans want it to be the 4th GT. I was pretty shocked. At the very least, it should be 3 weeks like the other 3 GTs, but from my foggy memory, the UCI limits races other than the 3 GTs to 14 days. I might be wrong.

Also, if the Americans want it to be a GT, why put it on at the same time as one of the 3 GTs? And one with over 100 years history!

 Fair enough. But to me, any cycling I get to watch is good cycling. The Americans probably don’t rate the Tour Down Under, but I love it.

Mike Tomolaris was telling me on Twitter that the Americans want it to be the 4th GT. I was pretty shocked. At the very least, it should be 3 weeks like the other 3 GTs, but from my foggy memory, the UCI limits races other than the 3 GTs to 14 days. I might be wrong.

Also, if the Americans want it to be a GT, why put it on at the same time as one of the 3 GTs? And one with over 100 years history!

 oh i agree that any cycling on tv is good cycling, but the TOC is pretty boring… about as much as a grand tour as the TDU while we are mentioning it! if you have ever been to california you would probably agree that there is nothing too grand about racing there!

yeah, Etna twice wasn’t difficult at all *cough*, and just because lance is your chip on the shoulder, don’t mean anyone else is even thinking of it. Haven’t thought of him in relation to the Giro at all….until you brought it up  (O.o)

Replying to CT’s original questions, I’d say I’m in the same boat for the same reasons plus one…
1 – it’s pretty much over, AC has it
2 – California is very entertaining, + Chris Horner is a favourite for me (NOW if you want to talk about Lance, let’s talk about what Horner might’ve achieved were he not devoted to Lance’s GC position in the past)
3 – Death of Wouter
4 – Lack of Aussies at top
5 – AC still stands accused, and not by some newspaper or cops going off half-cocked (a la  Ballan), but by WADA and an actual undisputed positive result…yes I know the rules allow him to ride, but the rules (and the process) are fvcked…the only reasons he’s still riding are he’s a big name and he’s spanish, so, meh, i’m not watching the giro eh. 

 Maybe it has to do with this!

http://acidcow.com/pics/20110517/acid_picdump_50.jpg

:) 

No, I don’t know if that is Cav or not.

For me the Giro this year has lost a little as I think the guy most likely to dictate the big stages will probably have the win taken off him a month later.  They really should have sorted out AC’s case before this – one way or the other, 10mths after the positive test is too long.

I presume it means… instead of grabbing onto cars, grab onto bananas for some energy and ride yourself?
Bit of a stretch but something to do with not getting a tow up Etna, not that really happened anyway.

Just more exciting racing at the moment in  TOC atm + the great viewing time in the morning. Also Contador is moaning to much for my liking. Good article from Inrng today as well: http://inrng.com/?p=3185

All of the above pretty much sums it up really, most teams dont seem that interested now.

 I am loving the Giro despite Contador.  It’s not the most thrilling Giro, but it is still some of the world’s best cyclists going hammer and tong over a beautiful course.

Personally, I find the ToC to be a bit of a yawn.  It may be the biggest race in America, but the lack of depth in the field makes comparisons with the Giro laughable.

Giro doesn’t have the spark of 2010, but you can make something of it. I have invited some fellas over to watch stage 14 on SBS. Love riding in the morning, home for a shower, watch ATOC during breakfast, off to work, cycling website hit-up at lunch and home for the Giro highlights. I love cycling…all the time. :)

i’m not home by 6pm (still riding home!), can’t stay up for the late stages as i struggle to get up in the mornings as it is, thus haven’t watched the ToC yet. so i’m missing out big time. why can’t they have an 8.30pm highlights/replay like they do for the TdF?

The Giro RACING has been pretty good, if you took AC it would be exceptional
That is not because I am an AC hater, but because he is in a different league to everyone else. Other years we have seen some pretty good battles AND animated racing. AC was good to watch in 08, maybe because he was not expected to ride, but maybe because he wasn’t the best climber in the race (or the best TT)
Last year was sensational, even though Evans and Basso ended up a couple of minutes apart and there were others between them on the poduim, the two of them made the race (special mention to Nibali). 09 wasn’t too bad but it was more a case of Menchov going through motions, as is his style, to hang on his only the highlights were his TT’s, winning one and falling off in Rome
07, DiLuca was exciting, and the emergence of Andy Schleck made it a classic, don’t really remembers Basso in 06, I think he dominated it though

I guess when you compare the formulaic racing that is the TdF that is a pretty good run, every second year shines, and the others are not too bad.

Basso was ‘extra-terrestrial’ in the ’06 Giro… 

Basso was ‘extra-terrestrial’ in the ’06 Giro… 

now now… he was only found guilty of attempted doping :)

Ok, I’ll bite too…

I “don’t like” Contador, but then again probably don’t like Lance either (although there is plenty to respect, which I don’t share with AC) so what should I do?

I think Clenbutador’s comment that the Giro is going to be won in the hotel room is the unintentionally funniest comment since a certain Festina rider said,”I thought they were vitamins?”

Is he that stupid or is he taking PR advice from Donald Trump and has Riccardo Ricco as a Life Coach?

He’s lucky Hinault and Merckx don’t punch the clen out of him for talking about trying not (?!) win a stage etc. Those guys earned respect by hunting down every stage and jersey they raced in, not whining on You Tube. Walter W was killed chasing a stage win, think about that next time you dismiss it as a hassle or not worth it.

I like the monkeys throwing crap at each other like is going on with Cav and those crying about him getting a tow (well covered as per usual by Inner Ring) but I reckon I’d be more interested if I could see it on SBS nightly at a proper time (6pm?! F@ck that..).

As opposed to DiLuca… and looking at some of those podiums Ricco, Pelazzotti, Gazelli

As opposed to DiLuca… and looking at some of those podiums Ricco, Pelazzotti, Gazelli

 I’m enjoying the Giro. Been up watching all the stages live in Eurosport. Not a fan of Contador and expect him to get booted by CAS in a month or so, but am still keen to watch Nibali have a go at him just to see what happens. I’m still hoping that AC went so hard on Etna to put the frighteners on everyone else so they settle for second rather than trying to unseat him in the last week.

Also, it’s fun seeing Menchov and Di Luca being crap. Amazing the difference from ’09. The wonders a Humanplasma investigation can do :-)

After Stage 9, you asked “This certainly isn’t the average doping case however. What are your
thoughts? Do you think he should be able to race until the appeal to the
CAS has been finalised? Do you even care as long as he keeps making the
racing exciting?”

The thing is, Contador isn’t making the race exciting. He’s doing the exact opposite. Yes, it’s pretty impressive how fast he gets up those climbs, but in terms of the race it appears a foregone conclusion (I just jinxed it right? Here’s hoping). The reason last year was so exciting was becuase there were a bunch of guys who could win it.

Take Contador out of the Etna stage, and the battle between “the best of the rest” becomes that much more compelling.

Maybe its the spectators idea of Cav’s sprinting….. straight as a banana ;-) 

 Can’t believe all you rocket scientists don’t get it.

Cavendish is a type of Banana innit????

I’ve found the Giro very exciting. ToC… not so.

Ahhhh! 

Ah Abdu here you are again with the Contador bashing. I love reading your posts because it really shows how fired up you are about Contador. Good to have blokes like you around spreading some laughter around. Keep at it good sir ;D 

$50 says there will be multiple accidents on that route. Possibly even fatal. The giro is well known to shake things up to the xtreme and its getting ridiculous. Last year was the rider who fell quite a few feet down into a ditch, this year is Wouter. Yes I know its the rider’s fault, but still bloody ridiculous. 

 AC has won the Giro…nothing to see…move along…

Cav is often compared to Bingo from the Banana Splits so that’s my guess.

As for the Giro I agree with the comments about making it harder and backfiring on them. It’s the fact that anything can happen which actually makes it dull.

It’s like “Which random domestique is going to win today ?”

For the most part I don’t care about Bart de Clerq, Peter Wieening or Angel Vicioso or the rest of them. In a one day race yes – then it is a valiant effort to claim the prize which everyone is competing for, a la Van Summeren. In a GT it’s just a random result that has  no bearing on the final standings and is only happening because the GC contenders are letting it.

I actually like the sprint stages  in the early weeks of the GTs because you have real competition between squads and sprinters, but there is still the potential wild card of a breakaway that succeeds. Here they haven’t been arsed to chase them down mostly. Yesterday was only because Le Mevel was there.

And once we get to the mountains it will just be a defensive race for second. GC riders will be too scared to attack, so we’ll still have random breakaways, just different names. The sole interest will be seeing if anyone cracks and falls off the bunch.

Slow hand-clap for the Giro this year I’m afraid.

I thought the Giro organisers just organised more steeper mountains? anyhow it’s beyond comprehension, the nets are a farce, more to come no doubt, pity Spartacus & Jens aren’t racing the Giro.

I thought the Giro organisers just organised more steeper mountains? anyhow it’s beyond comprehension, the nets are a farce, more to come no doubt, pity Spartacus & Jens aren’t racing the Giro.

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Have been enjoying watching snippets of the ToC via “The Shack” Tracker which I assume has the same coverage as SBS but with a bit more info and can be viewed while at work…. ;o)
Giro hasn’t really gripped me this year but as others have said maybe it will when the climbs appear. Having said that, if Contador races off into a big lead early on thenI don’t think I’ll bother watching…

Hey, I’m still in Thailand – for about three more ring-burning hours. One bad meal in Nepal and a week of running for toilets is about to end – and with it nightly Giro coverage finishing before 10pm on hotel Eurosport.
I’ll miss the coverage but not overly so – with The Spanish Steak likely to be culled by CAS after the race I’m more interested in who comes second… And that battle is well and truly alive!

 I think the coverage it (Giro)receives here in Oz is what makes this races popularity hard to judge here. If it was promoted on a station like SBS does for the TDF then I think people would follow it a bit more enthusiastically, vocally etc.

I don’t know, watching 39-year-old-Chris-Horner tearing everyone’s legs off on that final climb was pretty spesh.  One vote for ToC. 

no its our very own Hollywood Turner!

no its our very own Hollywood Turner!

 I’m scared to ask how you know that?   ;)

 The Giro is definitely more interesting to me. Contador is amazing to watch. I never fail to appreciate watching him ride and he is not predictable either, he hasn’t sat back and waited for the biggest stages and I don’t think it’s out of fear of his rivals as some suggest. I think he just sees opportunities or weaknesses and punishes his rivals. That makes for exciting racing. So far the scenery in the TOC has been either non-existent (stage 1) or pretty boring. The Giro on the other hand is always a visual feast – both geographically and culturally. I know there will be some great scenery coming up in the TOC but it’s more spectacular in Italy and there’s more of it. For me there’s no comparison on paper and so far in both events, the Giro is more interesting.

 ”Is he that stupid or is he taking PR advice from Donald Trump and has Riccardo Ricco as a Life Coach?”

Speaking of PR, at least Tyler didn’t blame it on his twin this time…
Ex-Teammate: I saw Lance Armstrong use EPO – 60 Minutes Overtime – CBS News

 ”Is he that stupid or is he taking PR advice from Donald Trump and has Riccardo Ricco as a Life Coach?”

Speaking of PR, at least Tyler didn’t blame it on his twin this time…
Ex-Teammate: I saw Lance Armstrong use EPO – 60 Minutes Overtime – CBS News

 ”Is he that stupid or is he taking PR advice from Donald Trump and has Riccardo Ricco as a Life Coach?”

Speaking of PR, at least Tyler didn’t blame it on his twin this time…
Ex-Teammate: I saw Lance Armstrong use EPO – 60 Minutes Overtime – CBS News

It just means  – Instead of grabbing onto cars, grab onto “bananas” - not one but two….gangbanged :)
It is “a bit” offensive….

….finally a sensible comment….undoubtedly coming from one that rides a bike with some background of cycling culture and tradition….. all the rest please have a look at the  stage profile and the average speed at the end of each stage….and try to spot the difference between the Giro and ToC……almost forgot the main difference to be kept in mind before opening your mouth….. May 13th, 1909.

TdF is boring not the Giro 2011 , the TOUGHEST race ever organized in the modern era…..I’m not even mentioning the ToC.

AC is of another planet at the moment…at his peak at 28yrs with a couple of years yet to come (he will make the history of this sport, doping or not doping)….the only way to challenge him was to organize a Giro like this….hoping to get him into a bad day……a small mistake on climbs like the Zoncolan and you lose ten minutes…..a small mistake on the Crostis descent and you lose even more…..this is well known to Zomegnan and all the others italian foxes

Expect fireworks from tonight on……there will be a Saint Alliance between all the italians against the pink jersey (patriotically supported by others spaniards)…..although, in my view, it won’t be enough against AC…..he has something to prove…and he will prove it.

I really do not understand how all this cannot be exciting for a cyclist…more riding less talking :) 

I think it’s just you Wade – I’m loving the Giro so far, and this stage was fantastic!  I loved watching those 2 guys (Katusha and Movistar – forget their names and I’m too lazy to Google) *almost* hang on, then a relatively unknown French climber take it out!  Vive la difference! (or whatever)

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I agree, my attention in the Giro is flagging a little too. The highlight for me has been John Gadret.

And based on his current Tour of California performance, I am hoping Andy Schleck is holding something in reserve for the TdF, otherwise we are in for a boring July too.

Plyometrics work for me, although they’re not for everyone.

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